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the great vegetarian debate

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths. What can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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Re: Indian Textbook Claims Meat Eaters...

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:18 am

Reminds me of this gem I found a while ago on a Muslim site:

‎"The pig is the most shameless animal on the face of the earth. It is the only animal that invites its friends to have sex with its mate. It feels no jealousy. And among people who consume pork, the practice of wife swapping and other forms of promiscuous behavior is common."
Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta


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Re: Indian Textbook Claims Meat Eaters...

Postby cooran » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:20 am

Hello LonesomeYogurt,

Was that in a school textbook like the OP?

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Re: Indian Textbook Claims Meat Eaters...

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Indian Textbook Claims Meat Eaters...

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Re: Indian Textbook Claims Meat Eaters...

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Indian Textbook Claims Meat Eaters...

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Re: Indian Textbook Claims Meat Eaters...

Postby DAWN » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:30 am

Sabbe dhamma anatta
We are not concurents...

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Re: Indian Textbook Claims Meat Eaters...

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Re: Indian Textbook Claims Meat Eaters...

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Sabbe dhamma anatta
We are not concurents...

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Re: Indian Textbook Claims Meat Eaters...

Postby Kusala » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:22 am

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"He, the Blessed One, is indeed the Noble Lord, the Perfectly Enlightened One;
He is impeccable in conduct and understanding, the Serene One, the Knower of the Worlds;
He trains perfectly those who wish to be trained; he is Teacher of gods and men; he is Awake and Holy. "

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Apparent here and now, timeless, encouraging investigation,
Leading to liberation, to be experienced individually by the wise. "

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Re: Indian Textbook Claims Meat Eaters...

Postby DAWN » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:02 am

Sabbe dhamma anatta
We are not concurents...

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Re: Meat eating

Postby DAWN » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:20 am

To complete.
DN2
"Whereas some brahmans and contemplatives, living off food given in faith, are addicted to consuming stored-up goods such as these — stored-up food, stored-up drinks, stored-up clothing, stored-up vehicles, stored-up bedding, stored-up scents, and stored-up meat — he abstains from consuming stored-up goods such as these. This, too, is part of his virtue."
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Re: Meat eating

Postby Ben » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:27 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Meat eating

Postby DAWN » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:53 am

Sabbe dhamma anatta
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Re: Meat eating

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:01 pm

Dawn
All that list is excess from donations and it means that the mendicants help themselves when they want something instead of using it as-and-when necessary.
it is still given in faith.
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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Meat eating

Postby Ben » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:05 pm

Keep in mind Dawn that the Buddha was not a vegetarian. He also rejected vegetarianism as a practice for the sangha.
No where, in the Tipitaka did the Buddha advocate for vegetarianism for the sangha nor the laity.
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Meat eating

Postby DAWN » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:09 pm

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Re: Meat eating

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:13 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Meat eating

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:16 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Meat eating

Postby DAWN » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:19 pm

Sabbe dhamma anatta
We are not concurents...


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