What mean litteraly : Manopubbangama dhamma ?

[tiltbillings]

Actualy some peoples traduce dhamma like dhamma, but others traduce dhamma like mental formation. So i dont understand why.

Thanks for the link !

Thanks you Bhante.

Traduce: to expose to shame or blame by means of falsehood and misrepresentation.

I have no idea what you mean here.

On pali it's said Manopubbangama dhamma
But it's traduced like "mental phenomena" here http://www.tipitaka.net/tipitaka/dhp/ve ... ?verse=001" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Or like "(all evil) states" in post of Bhante Pesala.

So my question is why when it's said "dhamma" peoples read other words? Perharps this question have no objectif responce, but the topic was created to understand if the word "Manopubbangama" enfluence word dhamma, answer is - no. Or yes?

Okay Translation, but your question still makes no sense.

[DAWN]

the topic was created to understand if the word "Manopubbangama" enfluence word dhamma, answer is - no. Or yes?

It's helpful to think that, when translating sentences, sentences are the units to think about. Words can somewhat change their meanings, and their connotative realms, based on the sentences within which they are located. In this case, I don't think "dhamma" is being affected by that specific compound in a grammatical way.

But there is a further caution - this is poetry. So we will want to pay attention to these contexts (the line is from the Dhammapada, for those following along at home).

"They are units to think about"
It's very true. I understand why it's changes now.

But the question arise, who make decision about what should think the practitioner about? Buddha, about whoole conception of "a dhamma", or translator, about just one part of this word like mental fenomena or other?
This is a good question...

[DAWN]

Okay Translation, but your question still makes no sense.

All i say have no sense.

[tiltbillings]

But the question arise, who make decision about what should think the practitioner about? Buddha, about whoole conception of "a dhamma", or translator, about just one part of this word like mental fenomena or other?
This is a good question...

Your question is not good. It is unclear. Try for shorter, clearer sentences.

[DAWN]

But the question arise, who make decision about what should think the practitioner about? Buddha, about whoole conception of "a dhamma", or translator, about just one part of this word like mental fenomena or other?
This is a good question...

Your question is not good. It is unclear. Try for shorter, clearer sentences.

Why word "dhamma" is translated like "mental formation". Who? and why? take decision to take just a little part of meaning of word dhamma.

[tiltbillings]

But the question arise, who make decision about what should think the practitioner about? Buddha, about whoole conception of "a dhamma", or translator, about just one part of this word like mental fenomena or other?
This is a good question...

Your question is not good. It is unclear. Try for shorter, clearer sentences.

Why word "dhamma" is translated like "mental formation". Who? and why? take decision to take just a little part of meaning of word dhamma.

It is chosen because that is what the text is saying.

[DAWN]

It is chosen because that is what the text is saying.

Actualy it is the problem, because text, Buddha, said "dhamma", if he would like said "sankhara" he would said "sankhara".

[tiltbillings]

It is chosen because that is what the text is saying.

Actualy it is the problem, because text, Buddha, said "dhamma", if he would like said "sankhara" he would said "sankhara".

Dhamma is appropriate to the context.