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anatta and cetana and conditions for right view

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Re: anatta and cetana (will, intention): Kamma negated?

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Re: anatta and cetana (will, intention): Kamma negated?

Postby mikenz66 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:14 am

Hi, DF,

Yes, thanks. I think we will simply have to agree to differ whether or not the KS approach is or is not a method, or, for that matter, whether it is more (or less) correct than other methods. That question clearly will not be decided by discussion amongst unawakened beings.

However, you make some useful points to keep in mind.

:anjali:
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Re: anatta and cetana (will, intention): Kamma negated?

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Kammalakkhano , bhikkhave, bālo, kammalakkhano pandito, apadānasobhanī paññāti
(The fool is characterized by his/her actions/the wise one is characterized by his/her actions/Wisdom shines forth in behaviour.)
(AN 3.2 Lakkhana Sutta)

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Re: anatta and cetana (will, intention): Kamma negated?

Postby robertk » Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:34 am

Dear Mike,
the conditions for wisdom to arise are hearing and considering Saddhamma.

On the other hand some people think that some technique is one of the conditions. There are many such techniques and they vary: the mahasi, u ba khin, sunlun, Dhammakaya and so on, but all take intense efforts, long periods of unremitting focusing and the promise of rapid progress.
Such intense concentration inevitably brings special experiences: some pleasant, some unpleasant - and in some of these techniques the instructors suggest that whatever these 'experiences', provided they have some ultra-normal characteristic, whether fear or rapture, shaking or bliss, heavy or light etc etc as being indicative of progress.

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So to find which is right, one has to learn what wisdom really is, and what the real conditions for such wisdom are.
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