AN 8.63 Sankhitta Sutta(Good Will,Mindfulness,Concentration)

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AN 8.63 Sankhitta Sutta(Good Will,Mindfulness,Concentration)

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Re: AN 8.63 Sankhitta Sutta(Good Will,Mindfulness,Concentration)

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Re: AN 8.63 Sankhitta Sutta(Good Will,Mindfulness,Concentration)

Postby daverupa » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:47 pm

They are all to be endowed with upekkha, which I find noteworthy. The Brahmaviharas are a wholesome source of pitisukha, are they not?

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Re: AN 8.63 Sankhitta Sutta(Good Will,Mindfulness,Concentration)

Postby mikenz66 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:50 pm

Hi Sam,

Yes, it is very interesting. Actually, it seems to me that there are quite a number of suttas that discuss various developmental approaches. However, as you say, certain suttas, such as the Anapanasati and Satipatthana Suttas, have become particularly popular.

On the other hand, it is not uncommon for teachers to teach brahmaviharas (or, at least some basic metta) as a preparation for satipatthana practice. Particularly if the student is having issues with anger, self-hatred, and so on, which can make satipatthana rather unbearable.

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Re: AN 8.63 Sankhitta Sutta(Good Will,Mindfulness,Concentration)

Postby daverupa » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:53 pm

I was asking whether pitisukha can be said to arise due to Brahmaviharas.

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Re: AN 8.63 Sankhitta Sutta(Good Will,Mindfulness,Concentration)

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Re: AN 8.63 Sankhitta Sutta(Good Will,Mindfulness,Concentration)

Postby mikenz66 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:54 pm

Hi Sam,

I agree, this seems fairly unique. But, on the other hand, quite a few suttas have fairly unique approaches to various things, so it might be a mistake to read just a few suttas (such as Anapanasati and Satipatthana Sutas) and elevate them to the "standard".

This particular suttas does have some relationship to the usual Gradual Training suttas such as:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html
where the pattern is
Virtue, Sense Restraint, Mindfulness and Alertness, Abandon Hindrances, Do Jhana, Have liberating insight.

In the current Sutta we have:
Do Jhana with Brahmaviharas, Develop insight through satipatthana.

A while ago Dave mentioned a Gradual Training Sutta that specifically mentioned satipatthana, but I can't find that right now. Perhaps he'll come along and help me out...

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Re: AN 8.63 Sankhitta Sutta(Good Will,Mindfulness,Concentration)

Postby DAWN » Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:28 pm

Thanks you mikenz a lot !

I enjoyed to read this topic :anjali:
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