About Kamma

A discussion on all aspects of Theravāda Buddhism
santa100
Posts: 2673
Joined: Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:55 pm

Re: About Kamma

Postby santa100 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:49 pm


User avatar
daverupa
Posts: 5980
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:58 pm

Re: About Kamma

Postby daverupa » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:02 pm


User avatar
BlueLotus
Posts: 393
Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:46 am

Re: About Kamma

Postby BlueLotus » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:08 pm


santa100
Posts: 2673
Joined: Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:55 pm

Re: About Kamma

Postby santa100 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:16 pm


User avatar
BlueLotus
Posts: 393
Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:46 am

Re: About Kamma

Postby BlueLotus » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:21 pm


santa100
Posts: 2673
Joined: Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:55 pm

Re: About Kamma

Postby santa100 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:22 pm

At least we're clear on that... :tongue:

User avatar
BlueLotus
Posts: 393
Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:46 am

Re: About Kamma

Postby BlueLotus » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:26 pm


santa100
Posts: 2673
Joined: Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:55 pm

Re: About Kamma

Postby santa100 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:30 pm

Sure, that's true in general. Sure one can attain nibbana eventually, but....right in the immediate life that he just killed his mother? Not according to the sutta. Like anything else in life, there'll always be exception.... :tongue:

User avatar
BlueLotus
Posts: 393
Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:46 am

Re: About Kamma

Postby BlueLotus » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:41 pm


santa100
Posts: 2673
Joined: Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:55 pm

Re: About Kamma

Postby santa100 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:47 pm


User avatar
BlueLotus
Posts: 393
Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:46 am

Re: About Kamma

Postby BlueLotus » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:00 pm


santa100
Posts: 2673
Joined: Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:55 pm

Re: About Kamma

Postby santa100 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:09 pm

I'm totally cool so no worry.. :smile: By the way santa means peace in Pali, like we have our friend CittaSanto at our forum, meaning peaceful mind..

As said before, I'm all open for the possibility of mistranslation, but you can't just say this sutta or that sutta is corrupt without providing proof or evidence to back that up..

User avatar
BlueLotus
Posts: 393
Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:46 am

Re: About Kamma

Postby BlueLotus » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:13 pm


santa100
Posts: 2673
Joined: Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:55 pm

Re: About Kamma

Postby santa100 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:26 pm


User avatar
daverupa
Posts: 5980
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:58 pm

Re: About Kamma

Postby daverupa » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:22 pm


santa100
Posts: 2673
Joined: Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:55 pm

Re: About Kamma

Postby santa100 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:59 pm


User avatar
daverupa
Posts: 5980
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:58 pm

Re: About Kamma

Postby daverupa » Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:58 pm

Last edited by daverupa on Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.

santa100
Posts: 2673
Joined: Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:55 pm

Re: About Kamma

Postby santa100 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:28 pm

Well, if we read Ven. Thanissaro's message carefully, he mentioned the results of killing one's own parents are so grave that not only one will have to pay for that in the lower realms (hell, animals, and hungry ghost), one still has to pay for it after s/he's made it to the human realm. The phrase "worked themselves out" is valid to the extent that it allows one to "be released from hell". But nowhere did it said it would totally exhaust all of one's remaining kamma, thus the tragic death of Ven. Moggallana even after he's made it to the human realm.

Again, I simply challenge the claim without saying only this or that is true. The sutta and Ven. T makes sense and there's no evidence of corruption to this particular sutta..

User avatar
daverupa
Posts: 5980
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:58 pm

Re: About Kamma

Postby daverupa » Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:35 pm


santa100
Posts: 2673
Joined: Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:55 pm

Re: About Kamma

Postby santa100 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:47 pm



Return to “General Theravāda discussion”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 25 guests

Google Saffron, Theravada Search Engine