Craving of essentials?

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Craving of essentials?

Postby nrose619 » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:12 pm

I understand the second noble truth that craving and desire are the source of suffering, but what about essential things like food and water? sometimes I can get really hungry and crave food. Is it wrong to crave things like food or water? and if it is, in what way should I handle them?
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Re: Craving of essentials?

Postby Ben » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:24 pm

Hi nrose,

If we are truly thirsty and hungry - it is a physical response to dehydration or the body requiring nutrient.
If we eat when we are hungry and drink when we are thirsty - then that is fine.
The issue with thirst and hunger is that for many people, the effective response to those sensations is intense aversion and fear.
If we cannot eat when we are hungry or drink when we are thirsty then we should merely observe those particular sensations, and any co-arising mental states and thoughts, with a degree of equanimity and objectivity - like a detached observer - until we are able to eat and drink.
The other complication is that many people confuse hunger and thirst for craving for a particular food or drink.
If we are craving particular types of food or drink then we should be observing the phenomenological aspects of craving at that time without mentally indulging or 'rolling' in the craving. The phenomenological aspects of craving and aversion are kaya (body process), vedana (sensation), citta (mental state) and dhamma (mental content/thought).
I am not suggesting that one should not eat or drink or eat or drink particualr things, but to take the time to observe what is going on when we are hungry and thirsty and when we are craving particular things.
kind regards,

Ben
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Re: Craving of essentials?

Postby SarathW » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:47 pm

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Re: Craving of essentials?

Postby nrose619 » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:42 am

Thanks Ben very insightful :anjali:
"A silver bird
flies over the autumn lake.
When it has passed,
the lake's surface does not try
to hold on to the image of the bird."


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