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Attachment, aversion ignorance, three sides of the same

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Attachment, aversion ignorance, three sides of the same

Postby SarathW » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:29 am

Are attahment,aversion and ignorance, three sides of the same coin?

It was not easy for me to completely practice non attachment, so I thought that I will practice complete non aversion. It seems easy to me as, I do not have to forgo any thing. So I made a list of people who I do not like and stared practicing Metta (loving kindness) meditation. So I went through this list mentally every morning to see whether I am succeeding in my effort.

For my surprise I came to the realisation the most of the thing I hate are the most important in my life. These include me, my family, my work mates, my neighbours, my friends etc. It appears to me that anger is directly related to some form of attachment and very obviously due to ignorance.

Can I practice Metta meditation without eliminating attachment?
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Re: Attachment, aversion ignorance, three sides of the same

Postby DAWN » Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:18 am

Great attachement brings great suffering.

By practicing metta rightly, naturaly you will develop detachement. Metta have detachement as its nature.
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Re: Attachment, aversion ignorance, three sides of the same

Postby pegembara » Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:00 am

Attachment is related to aversion.

The more there is attachment, the more there is a possibility of aversion. It is hard to be angry at a complete stranger. It is also why betrayal is most likely to cause one to seek revenge.

Ignorance is not seeing the danger inherent in attachment. Attaching to romantic love, life, health, fame actually means attaching to the opposites of hate, death and sickness. Due to impermanence of all conditions everything is inherently unstable. These things come as a package. You can't have one without the other.
And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, & from idle chatter: This is called right speech.

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Re: Attachment, aversion ignorance, three sides of the same

Postby DAWN » Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:25 am

There is no hate, there is wrong love.

I dont hate the police, i love my self to much.
I dont hate my neighbour, i love my self to much.
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Re: Attachment, aversion ignorance, three sides of the same

Postby Spiny Norman » Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:19 am

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Re: Attachment, aversion ignorance, three sides of the same

Postby SarathW » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:14 pm

Hi Porpoise
Good thinking!
If you could inflate a coin what you will get is a round ball. So there is no head or tail.
What you get is “one world of ignorance”
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Re: Attachment, aversion ignorance, three sides of the same

Postby SarathW » Thu May 22, 2014 12:27 am

These two terms, suggestive of a duality, remind us of the water pump
we mentioned in our discussion of the vortex.19 There is nothing really
automatic even in a water pump, which takes in and throws out. Due to
these two aspects in the mechanism of a water pump, we call it a unit.
From the point of view of a water pump, it is capable of performing both
functions. It is from this point of view that we attribute a unitary
significance to it. In this very concept of a unit, one can discern the
delusion involved.
Delusion is the apex of the vicious triangle greed, hate and delusion.
Greed and hate are the two feelers directed from the apex delusion.
Though we regard them as two functions, the taking in and throwing out
are simply two aspects of the same function. All this points to the depth of
the idea of duality and to the vortex simile, which our commentarial
tradition seems to have ignored.

P600
http://www.seeingthroughthenet.net/file ... led_VI.pdf
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Re: Attachment, aversion ignorance, three sides of the same

Postby chownah » Thu May 22, 2014 1:29 am

Do not spend the coin of ignorance.....you don't want anything which can be bought with it.
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Re: Attachment, aversion ignorance, three sides of the same

Postby Spiny Norman » Thu May 22, 2014 8:39 am

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