dvemebhikkhave wrote:does the reference (SN IV sutta 217 refer to the salayatana vagga?) its about the breath being a hindrance to the 1st jhana, and does anyone have a reference for the absence of breathing in the 4th jhana?? thnks
1. "Monks, forms, sounds, scents, tastes, touches, and ideas will be unpleasant in the future. The impermanent are unpleasant and the unpleasant lack self. When self is lacking, it is not mine, I am not there, and it is not my self. This should be seen, as it really is, with right wisdom.
2. Monks, the learned noble disciple seeing it thus turns from forms, sounds, scents, tastes, touches and ideas. Having turned loses interest and is released. When released knowledge arises, birth is destroyed, the holy life is lived to the end duties are done and I have nothing more to wish."
"I have further taught, monk, the gradual cessation of conditioned phenomena. In him who has attained the first meditative absorption[jhana], speech has ceased. Having attained the second absorption, thought-conception and discursive thinking has ceased. Having attained the third absorption, joy has ceased. Having attained the fourth absorption, inhalation and exhalation have ceased. Having attained the sphere of the infinity of space, perception of form has ceased. Having attained the sphere of the infinity of consciousness, the perception of the sphere of the infinity of space has ceased. Having attained the sphere of no-thingness, the perception of the sphere of infinity of consciousness has ceased. Having attained the sphere of neither-perception-nor-non-perception, the perception of the sphere of no-thingness has ceased. Having attained the cessation of perception and feeling, perception and feeling have ceased. In a taint-free monk greed has ceased, hatred has ceased, delusion has ceased.
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