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Article:Whistleblower's treatment exposes dark side of Obama

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Postby Ben » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:33 am

Thanks Dan.
I read that article earlier today and I thought it was very interesting.
kind regards,

Ben
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Re: Article:Whistleblower's treatment exposes dark side of Obama

Postby Modus.Ponens » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:18 pm

I saw an interview on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart about area 51 and it was said that the president of the United States has to ask permission to have access to information on area 51. Because of this and other imperialist policies of the USA, aparently, although there is some power in the hands of the president, there must also exist power from the military that has priority over the president's.
He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
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Re: Article:Whistleblower's treatment exposes dark side of Obama

Postby poto » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:00 am

I think some perspective is in order.

Bradley Manning while enlisted in the military leaked classified military secrets, which is a serious crime in the military. The Uniform Code of Military Justice is much more strict than civilian law.

Just a few decades ago the same offense he committed would likely have seen him tortured and executed in short order. During the height of the cold war or before I doubt he would have been sitting idly in a prison cell for months or years. I think that shows how far we have come as a society that he is still alive and has been pretty much unharmed. Although, he will probably end up getting a lengthy prison sentence, possibly life in prison, he could be much worse off.

One thing that article left out is that he's threatened suicide numerous times. Being on suicide watch in a military prison is no picnic. I would expect his living conditions to be quite bad. The 'forced nudity' thing sounds terrible, but in context of a suicidal inmate, you can't very well have them trying to hang themselves with their pants legs.

Also, I don't know if I'm recalling it correctly, but I vaguely remember reading something about some of the information he leaked included the names of undercover operatives and local allies in Afghanistan. I can't remember if any of them were killed as a result of their names being made public or if they were able to be pulled out beforehand, but that seemed to be the justification for the 'aiding the enemy' charges. I would have expected the same types of charges to be laid on anyone who outed the names of our Russian spies during the cold war.

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