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Postby bhante dhamma » Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:35 pm

I came accross an interesting sutta in the 3's of the new Anguttara titled 'wailing' in which the Blessed One states that in the Noble One's discipline singing is wailiing...dancing is insanity and excessive showing of the teeth is childish.The last sentence says something like but if one wishes to smile because of dhamma then just smile....i didn't read the footnote to see what the explanation of this last sentence was sorry, but from my experiencecs of living as a monk in Thailand around well practiced teachers who are reputed to have good meditation there is a culture of being heedful and not careless, restrained and not indulgent etc so I can maybe relate to this easier than others.

My question/thought is after having a little debate about whether smiling is ok or not with somebody (for those in favour see majjhima 79 'dhammacetiya sutta') were king pasanedi praises Gotama's disciples for being so happy, does any one have any references for where the Buddha himself refers to joy as a quality of his disciples in a praiseworthy way ?? Meaning can smiling to the point of showing ones teeth be said to be wholesome or not? in terms of abandoning the hindrance of sensual desire my experience is that it is indeed childish because it increases the arisen taint of sensuality and the arouses the unarisen one too...

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Postby DAWN » Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:06 pm

The smile born from freedom of attachements - is the noble one.
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Postby cooran » Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:53 pm

Hello all,

A couple of references:

''On one occasion the Blessed One was wandering on a tour among the Kosalans with a large community of monks. As he was going along a road, he saw a large sala forest in a certain place. Going down from the road, he went to the sala forest. On reaching it, he plunged into it and at a certain spot, broke into a smile. Then the thought occurred to Ven. Ananda, "What is the cause, what is the reason, for the Blessed One's breaking into a smile? It's not without purpose that Tathagata's break into smile." So he said to the Blessed One, "What is the cause, what is the reason, for the Blessed One's breaking into a smile? It's not without purpose that Tathagata's break into smile."
Gavesin Sutta: About Gavesin ... .than.html

‘’He was the Awakened One. He let her put her offering into his alms bowl. After Mallika — without knowing to whom she had given the food — had prostrated at his feet, she walked on full of joy. The Buddha smiled. Ananda, his attendant, who knew that the fully Enlightened One does not smile without a reason, asked therefore why he was smiling. The Buddha replied that this girl would reap the benefits of her gift this very same day by becoming the Queen of Kosala.’’ ... ml#mallika

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