your take on nibbana

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Re: your take on nibbana

Postby alan... » Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:34 am

DAWN wrote:And if there is a clear knowledge that was arise in me : "it's liberated".
Should i concider it like Nibbana attainement? :)

:woohoo: :D

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:candle: :buddha1: :candle:


well if that happens as described in the suttas then yes!

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Re: your take on nibbana

Postby DAWN » Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:30 am

alan... wrote:
DAWN wrote:And if there is a clear knowledge that was arise in me : "it's liberated".
Should i concider it like Nibbana attainement? :)

:woohoo: :D

:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
:candle: :buddha1: :candle:


well if that happens as described in the suttas then yes!


Great !
Job is done :popcorn:

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If your mind tries to tell you it has already attained the level of sotapanna, go and bow to a sotapanna. He’ll tell you himself it’s all uncertain. If you meet a sakadagami, go and pay respects to him. When he sees you, he’ll simply say, "Not a sure thing!" If there’s an anagami, go and bow to him. He’ll tell you only one thing, "Uncertain!" If you meet even an arahant, go and bow to him. He’ll tell you even more firmly, "It’s all even more uncertain!" You’ll hear the words of the Noble Ones: "Everything is uncertain. Don’t cling to anything!"

Ajhan Chah :meditate:
Sabbe dhamma anatta
We are not concurents...
I'am sorry for my english

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Re: your take on nibbana

Postby m0rl0ck » Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:08 pm

alan... wrote:it seems like there are some different ideas. what are yours?

how do you define it? what is it like? what does it mean?


Oh man, i love the easy ones :)

Dead simple. Its whats left over when you subtract samsara.
"When you meditate, don't send your mind outside. Don't fasten onto any knowledge at all. Whatever knowledge you've gained from books or teachers, don't bring it in to complicate things. Cut away all preoccupations, and then as you meditate let all your knowledge come from what's going on in the mind. When the mind is quiet, you'll know it for yourself. But you have to keep meditating a lot. When the time comes for things to develop, they'll develop on their own. Whatever you know, have it come from your own mind.
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Re: your take on nibbana

Postby Dan74 » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:37 pm

m0rl0ck wrote:
alan... wrote:it seems like there are some different ideas. what are yours?

how do you define it? what is it like? what does it mean?


Oh man, i love the easy ones :)

Dead simple. Its whats left over when you subtract samsara.


In other words 0, since as we know samsara=nibbana ;)
_/|\_

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Re: your take on nibbana

Postby m0rl0ck » Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:35 pm

Dan74 wrote:
m0rl0ck wrote:
alan... wrote:it seems like there are some different ideas. what are yours?

how do you define it? what is it like? what does it mean?


Oh man, i love the easy ones :)

Dead simple. Its whats left over when you subtract samsara.


In other words 0, since as we know samsara=nibbana ;)


Well to misquote the lankavatara sutra: They are not the same, nor are they otherwise.

I think i remember hearing a dharma talk where the teacher said something like, "They are exactly the same, but different. :)

My understanding of samsara is that its primarily a mental disorder and that reality, our natural state, is nibbana. I suppose that reveals my mahayana tendencies :)
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"When you meditate, don't send your mind outside. Don't fasten onto any knowledge at all. Whatever knowledge you've gained from books or teachers, don't bring it in to complicate things. Cut away all preoccupations, and then as you meditate let all your knowledge come from what's going on in the mind. When the mind is quiet, you'll know it for yourself. But you have to keep meditating a lot. When the time comes for things to develop, they'll develop on their own. Whatever you know, have it come from your own mind.
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/thai ... eleft.html

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Re: your take on nibbana

Postby Dan74 » Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:40 pm

Kinda like form and emptiness, 0 and infinity, Buddha and the shitstick? :o
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Re: your take on nibbana

Postby DAWN » Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:43 pm

It's not a teaching of Buddha, but logicaly, void is condition to form, they are interdependant, like all duality. :spy:
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Re: your take on nibbana

Postby m0rl0ck » Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:46 pm

Dan74 wrote:Kinda like form and emptiness, 0 and infinity, Buddha and the shitstick? :o


Yeah, like linchi railing against buddhism, there is no where to point away from it. :)
"When you meditate, don't send your mind outside. Don't fasten onto any knowledge at all. Whatever knowledge you've gained from books or teachers, don't bring it in to complicate things. Cut away all preoccupations, and then as you meditate let all your knowledge come from what's going on in the mind. When the mind is quiet, you'll know it for yourself. But you have to keep meditating a lot. When the time comes for things to develop, they'll develop on their own. Whatever you know, have it come from your own mind.
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/thai ... eleft.html

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Re: your take on nibbana

Postby alan... » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:35 am

DAWN wrote:
alan... wrote:
DAWN wrote:And if there is a clear knowledge that was arise in me : "it's liberated".
Should i concider it like Nibbana attainement? :)

:woohoo: :D

:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
:candle: :buddha1: :candle:


well if that happens as described in the suttas then yes!


Great !
Job is done :popcorn:

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If your mind tries to tell you it has already attained the level of sotapanna, go and bow to a sotapanna. He’ll tell you himself it’s all uncertain. If you meet a sakadagami, go and pay respects to him. When he sees you, he’ll simply say, "Not a sure thing!" If there’s an anagami, go and bow to him. He’ll tell you only one thing, "Uncertain!" If you meet even an arahant, go and bow to him. He’ll tell you even more firmly, "It’s all even more uncertain!" You’ll hear the words of the Noble Ones: "Everything is uncertain. Don’t cling to anything!"

Ajhan Chah :meditate:



nice quote!


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