alan... wrote:what is your step by step process?
what does it feel like?
what do you do during? afterwards?
how many jhanas can you enter?
have you mastered any of them?
used them for specific purposes?
what are your goals?
i use anapanasati to enter access, then once i see the nimitta i let it engulf my consciousness and feel the bliss spread throughout my body. i kind of still watch my breath during this but it wavers as i am very much in the jhana. another method that i am wary of is where you drop the breath when you enter jhana, then you focus only on a pleasant feeling without any wanting for it to rise or cease (similar to the way you watch your breath), and it then is supposed to rise and you enter jhana. i have had this work extremely well a couple of times but the first method i listed works most often for me. also the second method i've only seen once in an article whereas the first is fairly close (key word "fairly" i realize it's not identical by any means) to the standard old school theravada approach.
it feels like total bliss with a few thoughts usually totally about the meditation itself floating up and disappearing every now and then.
during i usually just enjoy it thoughtlessly, sometimes i slip out of it to contemplate the root of thoughts. afterwards i trace the root of thoughts, contemplate consciousness, and other such mental things.
i can enter the first fairly easy, how long and how strong it is is extremely variable. the second one i have entered once for about twenty minutes and it was incredible, ten times the first one but seeing as i am far from mastering the first one i'm staying there for now.
i have not mastered even the first one yet.
i use them for wisdom, sharpening the blade of wisdom and then turning that blade on my delusions. this sounds dramatic but i'm using metaphoric language from the suttas, it mostly feels quite automatic. when my mind is sharp with jhana and i turn it on a thought, it just floats away like it's a balloon that someone cut the string on as i was looking at it.
goals are obviously nibbana only. but also i'm interested in mastering the fourth jhana and seeing my past lives as a means to test the idea as i'm not sure how i feel about all that and i'm positive nibbana exists. this is for fun only really, i don't see it as a serious goal, just a side trip.