Newtown Shootings

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Mr Man
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Re: Newtown Shootings

Postby Mr Man » Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:02 am

I think it would kind of be nice if we could separate the tragedy of what happened from the Gun Control debate though. My heart goes out to those who lost their loved ones and those who were affected.

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Re: Newtown Shootings

Postby Justsit » Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:41 pm

Agreed, Mr. Man.

In the interest of accuracy, though, the is not a "hunting rifle" - unless one is hunting humans. (Available for about $800 at . Gotta love America.)

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Re: Newtown Shootings

Postby corrine » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:39 pm

While I live in the southwestern United States and I am an advocate of gun control, at this time my only feeling is one of grief for these innocent lives lost and for their poor families who may never recover. How do you move forward when something so unthinkable has happened to your sweet little angel? Are there any answers to be had? Anger is a normal but not helpful response. I really believe that we have to find a way to stop these senseless slaughters. My country, which I dearly love, seems to have become a shooting gallery. I do not know what has changed to cause this. It was not this way when I was young. Children were, overall, free to live their precious little lives safely. I grew up in Los Angeles and ran around the entire neighborhood without my parents having to worry. In the fifties. The neighbors watched out for all of the kids.

What has happened to us as a nation? I simply cannot come to grips with this. Are there answers? To be angry in the aftermath may be natural, but it does not seem to address the actual horrible problem. What can we do, now, to stop this?

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Re: Newtown Shootings

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:44 pm

Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta


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Re: Newtown Shootings

Postby appicchato » Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:50 pm

Just read this elsewhere...true that...

'...not even the taliban have done something so vile. He shot each child several times.'

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Re: Newtown Shootings

Postby Monkey Mind » Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:58 pm

{removed editorial comments, this does not seem like an appropriate thread for that...}

May the surviving families of the dead (and of the perpetrator) experience wellness during this difficult time.
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as others are, so am I."
Having thus identified self and others,
harm no one nor have them harmed.

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Re: Newtown Shootings

Postby Yana » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:26 am

I don't understand America's gun culture.
Does this look like a weapon "civilians" purchase for "self defense"?
Assault Weapons...come on...are you waiting for some kind of zombie invasion...seriously how man rounds can you pump into an intruder..

One man brings a shoe bomb at the airport now everyone has to take their shoes off through security.
A lot of people die of gun related deaths and nothings been done about it.Mental health issues or not.I'm pretty sure If you took the gun away it would have limited his way of killing.
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Re: Newtown Shootings

Postby retrofuturist » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:51 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Newtown Shootings

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Re: Newtown Shootings

Postby Kusala » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:14 am

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Re: Newtown Shootings

Postby Ben » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:29 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
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Re: Newtown Shootings

Postby manas » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:30 am

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: Newtown Shootings

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Re: Newtown Shootings

Postby Papashaw » Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:38 am

Good and evil dont look balanced, it doesn't look balanced to me because the Buddha has said human rebirth is rare.
But the bigger doubt causer is events like these! Those kids won't be able to hug their parents now, that pain from longing by those parents!

Pray for everyone. Goodnight.

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