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cultivating wisdom?

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths. What can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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Re: cultivating wisdom?

Postby Ben » Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:27 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: cultivating wisdom?

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Re: cultivating wisdom?

Postby Ben » Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:41 am

No worries, Alan.
At some stage, you might wish to consider attending a residential retreat.
Its an experience that I highly recommend.
with metta,

Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: cultivating wisdom?

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Postby Ben » Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:22 am

There are some excellent places you can go to meditate if you don't have much money.
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Postby Ben » Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:32 am

There are a number of sub-traditions that will offer a place for a yogi on a donation basis.
Such as the sub-tradition in which I practice. Many students attend a ten-day course and stay to serve. Some continue to 'sit and serve' for months at a time.
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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: cultivating wisdom?

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Re: cultivating wisdom?

Postby manas » Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:54 pm

Alan, I'm glad you find samadhi "fairly straightforward" cos personally I've had a very long and hard struggle with it, which is ongoing.

As for wisdom, just to keep exerting ourselves in the practice requires a degree of wisdom, imo. Otherwise why wake up early every day to sit, abstain from various things, etc? Why not just take it easy and enjoy the ordinary pleasures of life?
Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: cultivating wisdom?

Postby vinasp » Tue Dec 25, 2012 3:00 am

Hi alan...

Is wisdom itself actually cultivated?

Perhaps wisdom is the right way of knowing, it is what is left when all the wrong ways
of knowing have been eliminated.

First stage: eliminate views.
Second stage: eliminate wrong ways of 'regarding' things.
Third stage: eliminate knowing in terms of 'I am'.

Of course, one has to see why the wrong ways of knowing are wrong.

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Re: cultivating wisdom?

Postby David N. Snyder » Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:49 am

Study some of the more technical aspects of the Dhamma, such as Paṭiccasamuppāda. Read the Suttas or if you already have, study them some more, especially some of the more technical parts.

You are asking lots of good questions. I admire your adhitthana (determination; a paramita).
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Re: cultivating wisdom?

Postby vinasp » Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:29 am

Hi alan...

Yes, but there is also another way of understanding the path.

Right thought, speech, conduct, livelihood, effort, mindfulness and concentration are
the RESULT of right view. All the other path factors are the automatic consequences of
right view, which only noble disciples have. [see SN 45.1]

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

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Re: cultivating wisdom?

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Re: cultivating wisdom?

Postby ground » Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:06 am

After having been told , just sit and verify through watching arising and cessation of "what you are". :sage:

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Re: cultivating wisdom?

Postby mirco » Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:43 pm

"An important term for meditative absorption is samadhi. We often translate that as concentration, but that can suggest a certain stiffness. Perhaps unification is a better rendition, as samadhi means to bring together. Deep samadhi isn't at all stiff. It's a process of letting go of other things and coming to a unified experience." -


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