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best suttas to memorize? techniques?

Postby alan... » Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:13 am

i'm working on memorizing satipatthana right now. this one is very inclusive. are there any others that would be good?

here are my unfinished thoughts:

maha satipatthana: covers about 70% of what i want to memorize.

anapanasati sutta: covers meditation in detail, another 10%?

a sutta that entails metta practice or at least that section of one, another 10%?

a sutta that covers dependant origination (SN 12.65?), recollection of past lives and enlightenment (MN 36 verses 34-44?), and maybe kamma as well, so probably one of the buddha's enlightenmnet suttas. another 10% and that's 100%. sweet.


........something about not-self...(SN 22.59?).

conversely i like the idea of memorizing only one and mastering it fully, if it's only one it must cover a LOT of ground, hence; satipatthana.

i started off reading and then writing the first lines of it over and over. that made it easy to check for accuracy but once you get a few pages in that's way to much writing so now i just do it in my head and check accuracy by recording myself saying it out loud and then compare that to the text.

i've also taken a picture of the text with my phone and made the section i'm working on my background that way it's always at my finger tips and, who knows, maybe it's seeping in unconsciously as well since it's always behind whatever i'm doing making it even easier to remember. on a funny note it's currently on "foulness of the bodily parts" so if anyone looks at my phone background, and doesn't know the sutta or anything, it's "contents of the stomach, feces, bile," and so on so they would be like "wha??? you're weird! why is this your background?"

it's so long that once i've got it down i'm going to recite it in three parts, on the way to work in the morning, on the way home in afternoon, and as i lie down for bed.

if i only do this one sutta i am considering learning it in pali as well, not that i will then magically know pali but it will give me a deeper understanding of the translation and i will learn a little more pali than i currently know at least.

anyone else doing anything like this?

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Postby Cittasanto » Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:32 am

focus on one at a time the satipatthana sutta is a big one so don't rush but get it memorised first.

the worst thing to do is rush through them.


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Postby ground » Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:40 am

SN 35.23 suffices ... if it suffices. :sage:

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Postby Cittasanto » Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:43 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Postby Cittasanto » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:22 am

I am suggesting you focus on one at a time not just learn one!
Don't get bogged down with information overload thinking about the next thing


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Postby befriend » Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:24 pm

a comprehensive sutta is the metta sutta. and also the sutta taught to rahula about having clear comprehension and making ones mind imperturbable like the elements. its the rahula something sutta i forget what its called but it has the name rahula in it.
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Postby Bakmoon » Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:50 pm

The non-doing of any evil,
The performance of what's skillful,
The cleansing of one's own mind:
This is the Buddhas' teaching.

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Postby Jaidyn » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:13 am

For memorizing I liked MN 10 and MN 2 (or was it MN 4)..Go for memorizing the first small portion until you master it, learn the next and master it, Read both of them starting with the first and then the next and try to master them both in succession. Continue and learn the third one in isolation, and then restart by trying to master the three in succession. In the middle of the sutta you do not need to restart entierly from the start, but may chose a middle-point to return to. Certain parts will be harder and requires extra attention or techniques. Be flexible. Finally you can read the whole sutta from memory.

Calming the mind is good. It is easy to get frustrated but then it becomes a good training in keeping the mind calm., A certain joy will arise once the parts are mastered and read from memory, the mind still has to keep calm and not be overturned by the joy (the same as with frustration).

The benefits, as you probably know, are that you have access to them wherever you are, and you will "embody" the teachings in your daily life in a whole new way. You will start to see how more of the details in your daily life may relate to the details in the suttas.

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Re: best suttas to memorize? techniques?

Postby karunametta » Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:17 am

when you guys are memorizing these suttas, are you memorizing both the pali and english, or just english? Or maybe just pali?

Metta Sutta and Reflections on Sharing Blessings are good ones. After you memorize satipatthana though :)

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Postby equilibrium » Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:06 pm

Why would one want to "memorize"?.....even if one could memorize all the suttas, surely by memorizing does not set one free?
Is "understanding" and "comprehension" not the main purpose?.....if done, one can let go rather than to "hold on".....by clinging.


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