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Employers can fire workers they find too sexy

Postby plwk » Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:51 am

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The Iowa Supreme Court ruled yesterday that employers in the state can legally fire workers they find too attractive.
In a unanimous decision, the court held that a dentist did not violate the state’s civil rights act when he terminated a female dental assistant whom his wife considered a threat to their marriage.
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Re: Employers can fire workers they find too sexy

Postby Cittasanto » Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:56 am

I am doomed to unemployment in Iowa then :(

but seriously, someone's personal life should not affect another's work life unless there was interference. That is (in my opinion) sexual harassment & bullying by the spouse.
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Postby robertk » Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:56 am

I can tell you this, my wife doesn't like pretty maids. Life is easier when we have a chubby 40 year doing the cleaning than a pert 20 year old, no matter the efficiency .

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Postby Sylvester » Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:59 am

How "pert"?

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Postby robertk » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:06 am

why? Are you looking for a maid or a GF?

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Re: Employers can fire workers they find too sexy

Postby m0rl0ck » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:23 am

I dont care who you are or whatever natural disadvantages you may possess, a motivated person can always find ways to look less attractive and presentable. Arent there any self help books on the subject?

Maybe videos? ie Buns of Tapioca etc.
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Postby Sylvester » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:24 am

Just curious, how much gravity must work to overcome collagen, before the perceived loss of "pertness" is deemed acceptable to the beholder.

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Postby robertk » Sat Dec 22, 2012 2:20 pm

Sylvester wrote:Just curious, how much gravity must work to overcome collagen, before the perceived loss of "pertness" is deemed acceptable to the beholder.


guess which one my wife would employ.
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Postby Cittasanto » Sat Dec 22, 2012 2:49 pm

robertk wrote:
Sylvester wrote:Just curious, how much gravity must work to overcome collagen, before the perceived loss of "pertness" is deemed acceptable to the beholder.


guess which one my wife would employ.


I assume your wife is allergic to people who do not know how to dress appropriately for their body size so the one on the left is my option.
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Postby Sylvester » Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:03 pm

I suspect the Mrs might prefer the one on the left for a live-in maid. She probably costs less to feed.

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Postby Annapurna » Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:22 pm

The Iowa Supreme Court ruled yesterday that employers in the state can legally fire workers they find too attractive.
In a unanimous decision, the court held that a dentist did not violate the state’s civil rights act when he terminated a female dental assistant whom his wife considered a threat to their marriage.


Completely understandable.

He had to do it, if she was a threat to his marriage and she WAS.

I would also fire a male employee, if I felt he was a temptation and my husband had found out and was deeply worried.

If I love my husband and want to save my marriage, of course I would!

And if my employee would drag me to court for that, it would confirm my feeling I made the right decision.
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Re: Employers can fire workers they find too sexy

Postby Dan74 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:36 pm

I guess she could've worn a burkha from the start, so it was all clearly her fault for being attractive.

Besides good-looking women deserve all the sh*t that comes their way - after spurning my advances all those times, the gall! :x
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Re: Employers can fire workers they find too sexy

Postby poto » Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:08 pm

Am I the only one just who had a 90's flashback?

I'm too sexy for my job, too sexy for my job...



Great... now that song is gonna be stuck in my had all day. :tongue:
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Postby Annapurna » Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:34 pm

Dan74 wrote:I guess she could've worn a burkha from the start, so it was all clearly her fault for being attractive.

Besides good-looking women deserve all the sh*t that comes their way - after spurning my advances all those times, the gall! :x


:?:

A Burka is the other extreme. There is a middle path between too sexy- tight and a Burka.

For instance, in our banks, people are required to adapt to a certain dress code, -men wear suits and ties, and women don't wear sexy tight stuff. It's a bank, not a bar.

There is a place and time for everything.

We live in an over-sexualized society, and I often found the stares of men very unpleasant and inappropriate.

I don't expose myself in this way anymore.
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Re: Employers can fire workers they find too sexy

Postby Dan74 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:42 pm

Annapurna wrote:
Dan74 wrote:I guess she could've worn a burkha from the start, so it was all clearly her fault for being attractive.

Besides good-looking women deserve all the sh*t that comes their way - after spurning my advances all those times, the gall! :x


:?:

A Burka is the other extreme. There is a middle path between too sexy- tight and a Burka.

For instance, in our banks, people are required to adapt to a certain dress code, -men wear suits and ties, and women don't wear sexy tight stuff. It's a bank, not a bar.

There is a place and time for everything.

We live in an over-sexualized society, and I often found the stares of men very unpleasant and inappropriate.

I don't expose myself in this way anymore.


Fair enough and I think employers can request an appropriate dress code within reason. I don't think her non-compliance with his request for different clothes was the main reason though. Besides for a dental nurse, a nice outfit would be quite a welcome distraction for most male clients, I suspect.

So had he put it to her "Please wear something a little less revealing and more formal if you wish to continue working here" and she refused, this case may have a leg to stand on. But from the way it's described it was just about his wife's jealousy. Well, is it fair for the woman who is discharging her professional duties well to be fired due to her boss's wife's jealousy? Sounds pretty absurd to me.
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Postby Annapurna » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:48 pm

I think that a marriage/partnership is something serious and something that others should respect. It's also something the Buddha taught, that we keep suffering from our loved one. Jealousy is the fear to lose yoir loved one and a horrible feeling.

If we love somebody, we should have compassion and try to spare him or her this type of suffering. This fear may not be justified!

But it's very real for our loved one, and IF we truly care about the other one's well being and want to reduce his or her suffering, we do all we can.

It's nit that hard to do something for a loved one.

It's hard to do something that hurts him or her.

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Postby Cittasanto » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:53 pm

poto wrote:Am I the only one just who had a 90's flashback?

I'm too sexy for my job, too sexy for my job...



Great... now that song is gonna be stuck in my had all day. :tongue:

no and I always laugh at 1:40
but I was thinking of a completely different song
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Postby Modus.Ponens » Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:17 am

Thank god we still have our constitution in Portugal. In it it says that nobody can be fired without a serious justification. This example of firing somebody because the wife is jealus borders the bananas republics' way of doing things. :soap:
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Re: Employers can fire workers they find too sexy

Postby Ben » Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:00 am

Dan74 wrote:I guess she could've worn a burkha from the start, so it was all clearly her fault for being attractive.

Indeed, Dan. Our lustful thoughts, or those of our spouse, is ALWAYS the responsibility of the person they are attracted to.
And to think we've been deluding ourselves thinking that we're responsible for our own craving, aversion and ignorance!
I got it now, its someone else's fault!
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Re: Employers can fire workers they find too sexy

Postby Annapurna » Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:48 am

I must say I find the remark about "banana republic" pretty offensive.

Are we not talking about a private problem here, between a married couple?

And is a marriage really worth less to you than a job?

Isn't a new job much easier found than a new beloved, -and what's up with their children, if they are raising a family?

Should we not feel compassion for the woman, who found out, that her husband is around a temptation all day long, distracting him from his job, with a high responsibility for other people's well being?

Would you want to pay your hard-earned money for dental treatments & oral surgery to a man, who is distracted by a cleavage and not able to do his best for you?

Wouldn't you be outraged and desperate if he absentmindedly caused you life-long suffering, due to medical malpractice?

It's happened before...!!

And if you gentlemen could be so kind and clarify something that puzzles me:

I have the feeling you trivialize and mock the "jealousy" of the woman, her fear of loss. Is that so?

If yes, why?

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