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At our current rate, humanity is hosed.

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At our current rate, humanity is hosed.

Postby polarbear101 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:33 pm

Interesting video that claims global warming is way more serious than most people understand...



I knew there was a reason I voted for the Green party. :tongue:


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Postby daverupa » Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:44 am

I can't think of a more important geopolitical issue. Nuclear arms proliferation might tie.

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Postby Digity » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:26 am

I don't understand what we can do about global warming. I don't see government changing and I don't see people changing their habits. Things will just need to get really bad before we wake up, but by then it's probably too late.

That's the stupidity we live with. :rolleye:

Also, I'd prefer to hear from a scientist and not a "blogger". Since when does having a blog make you an expert? It gives this talk less credibility...even though he's probably correct on the general tone of the issue.

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Postby Reductor » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:47 am

Is there any real good news about alternative energy? I read here and there about initiatives at other places in the world, but am lacking a wide enough view to know if things are swinging that way at a encouraging rate.

As it is now, I really wish I'd kept it in my pants, 'cause I worry about the lives my children, and grandchildren, will have to lead.

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Postby Mr Man » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:10 am

Thanks for all the links Kim. :)

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Postby Kim OHara » Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:11 am

Quite by chance, the latest post on RealClimate is a pair of lectures on global warming and what to do about it:
Authoritative but very clear and approachable, and an excellent resource for anyone who isn't sure they know as much as they should about the subject.

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Postby Digity » Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:40 am

The Cambrian Era may have had those levels of CO2, but didn't changes happened at a much slower rate then and life forms had time to evolve and develop. Instead, the changes we're making are happening more rapidly. Anyway, you make a good point in that we need to look at both sides, both the good and the bad around global warming. Although, I'm just not as optimistic as you. Typically, when humans are effecting the environment it usually leads to problems. For instance, the ozone hole or polluting the oceans. Can you think of anything from industrialization that has benefited the environment? I can't.

There's also the issue of sea levels. Is that going to be good? If I lived on an island I wouldn't be too happy about that news. Not saying that climate change will be the end of civilization, but I think it'll ultimately lead to more problems than good. Thinking otherwise is probably wishful thinking.

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Postby Kim OHara » Tue Dec 25, 2012 10:35 pm

Poto,
I think "oblivious" (your word) or blinkered (mine) might actually be a reasonably accurate description of where you're coming from, just from your posts to this thread. They don't show any new knowledge since

or


We can pick up from there if you like ... but it would be much nicer for me if you would actually do enough reading from reputable sources to bring yourself up to date.

As for your graph from the Daily Mail, it's a known fraud from a known denialist - see

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Postby Kim OHara » Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:56 pm

On a happier - and more seasonal - note ...
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