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"Acting Buddhist" In The West & Grammar Nazis

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"Acting Buddhist" In The West & Grammar Nazis

Postby Jhana4 » Tue Dec 25, 2012 8:40 pm

I think many of us in the West have asked ourselves "how should a Buddhist or a meditator act?".

I decided to settle that question for myself, by being myself. If I don't act "enlightend" enough or enough like a bad David Carradine impression for others, than so be it. They call it "practice" for a reason.

I recently found a Face Book page by a writer who regularly makes posts poking fun at examples of bad grammar. At least on the internet, I am of the view that when someone begins picking at someone's writing it is a sign that they don't have an argument left. That is why they are going for the style over the content. I decided to give this page a try because the author also explains what the grammar mistakes are which will help me.

I was shocked to read a post from her yesterday that she was raised a "secular Buddhist".

While I do not have a taste for the religious trappings that come with Eastern Buddhism and Asian culture, I have always admired the subculture among Buddhists of kindness and not handling things in a harsh way when there are alternatives.

Meanly poking fun at other people's writing just seems to miss the boat and be a big FAIL as Buddhist, to me.

That is my opinion and it could be completely wrong.
In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

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Re: "Acting Buddhist" In The West & Grammar Nazis

Postby Cittasanto » Tue Dec 25, 2012 9:18 pm

Are they human or is "Buddhist" now a particular species?!

many who call themselves Buddhists do not act like a Buddha.

Same goes with countries and all other things. If we take Bhutan as an example of a Buddhist country when looking at other Buddhist countries we would expect happiness to be the standard of a countries wealth, and all Buddhist countries to be carbon sink holes. but they don't an are not.
and what of monks? if we take Ajahn Mun, Boowa, & Chah as examples, we go to Sri Lankha and hear the chanting, or the towns and see the money use and would think what?
and monasteries, wouldn't be found in a red light district of a Thai city, yet I know of one, and wait a moment prostitution in a Buddhist country? Buddhists prostituting themselves, being pimps treating others badly, or engaging in other forms of wrong livelihood!

and lets not mention Ajahn Boowa's activities against the prime minister of Thailand, or the Sri Lankan sanghas involvement in politics....


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Re: "Acting Buddhist" In The West & Grammar Nazis

Postby Ben » Tue Dec 25, 2012 10:01 pm

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

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in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
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Re: "Acting Buddhist" In The West & Grammar Nazis

Postby cooran » Tue Dec 25, 2012 10:38 pm

---The trouble is that you think you have time---
---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
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Re: "Acting Buddhist" In The West & Grammar Nazis

Postby Jhana4 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:56 pm

In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

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Re: "Acting Buddhist" In The West & Grammar Nazis

Postby Raitanator » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:57 pm

Well, I think the most important point is to aknowledge whether oneself is grammar nazi or not. If not, then what to worry about? We can't change other people, only universal dharma can do that.

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Re: "Acting Buddhist" In The West & Grammar Nazis

Postby BubbaBuddhist » Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:47 am

I is not thinkin 'acting like a Buddhist' has much meaning. People are forever telling me "I thought Buddhists didn't do..." (insert some behavior that I'm currently performing which has apparently disillusioned the speaker). Ah well. I live in the South and enjoy mocking people's imperfections. Great pastime. Must mean I'm no Buddhist. Good to know. Now I can worship the twin Jesi, Black Jesus and White Jesus, Halleluiah!

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Re: "Acting Buddhist" In The West & Grammar Nazis

Postby danieLion » Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:01 am

When our non-Buddhist acquaintances and friends play the "that's not very Buddhist of you/him/her/them" card, a great opportunity arises for us to clear up any misconceptions they might have about the Dhamma (if they're inclined and we're up to it).

My culture (Portland, Oregon/USA) is very perfectionistic due to its addictions to achievement, success, gain, beauty, fame, etc... (which is probably true globally to varying degrees). When our non-Buddhist acquaintances and friends judge our actions as non-Buddhist, they are judging us by standards in many ways irrelevant to Buddhism. Many of us have grown up accepting without question the assumption that religion is mere superstition. We are primed to look for faults in religionists so we can easily dismiss what we'd rather not investigate for ourselves. Ironic: as we also call this "thinking scientifically." "Well," we think, "If this is how Buddhists act, then that just proves that all religions are stupid and Buddhism is no exception."

I'm not really sure what a "secular Buddhist" is, but I doubt they are any less or more likely to act unskillfully than most if not all humans.

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Re: "Acting Buddhist" In The West & Grammar Nazis

Postby Doshin » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:02 pm

Knowing about dhamma, does not imply knowing dhamma

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Re: "Acting Buddhist" In The West & Grammar Nazis

Postby Dan74 » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:33 pm

While I agree that there is probably little to be gained by thinking about other peoples defilements, I confess to sometimes wondering about people's practice when they habitually hurt others. Like in the case of the nasty scandal at Zen Studies Society in NY, I can only conclude that the so-called teacher's Buddhist practice had gone completely off the rails to be able to habitually abuse, hurt and lie. For me, it's a reminder that it is easy to go astray and while we should strive to be honest and sincere, a teacher or a kalyana mitta who is further along the path can be vital.
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