David N. Snyder wrote:Rahula wrote:But it is not because causing death to any living being is not akusala karma unless you think about it.
It may not be akusala kamma (for other reasons), but not simply because one is not "thinking about it." Using that logic, one could also kill a human and then "not think about it." The Buddha clearly advised against such thinking. One monk performed immoral acts and stated that "I feel neither ease nor discomfort, thus there will be no offense for me." The Buddha responded, "whether this foolish man felt or did not feel, there is an offense." (Vinaya, Suttavibhanga 3.36)
You did not understand what I mean.
David N. Snyder wrote:Using that logic, one could also kill a human and then "not think about it."
How can anybody kill a human without thinking? The only way possible is, by accident. Other than that your mind goes through thoughts of killing, accumulating you akusala karma of the killing.
But in the case of an accident, for example, if you met with a car accident and someone died as your car went over that person, you do not accumulate akusala karma of killing a human. But if you can't forget that incident and if you keep thinking about it over and over again, your mind goes through those negative guilty feelings. What is the vipaka of this kind of chitta/ thoughts?
David N. Snyder wrote:One monk performed immoral acts and stated that "I feel neither ease nor discomfort, thus there will be no offense for me." The Buddha responded, "whether this foolish man felt or did not feel, there is an offense." (Vinaya, Suttavibhanga 3.36)
This is very true.
When you perform some act you obviously think about it. If it is bad or good. It is not possible to do anything without thinking about it. So if someone performed immoral acts, he had gone through immoral thoughts. So he had already accumulated akusala karma. What he think about after that is a different story.
What I want to height is that, if you keep thinking about some action, it is possible to accumulate more karma, kusala or akusala. If you perform any immoral acts, you had already accumulated akusala karma. And if you keep thinking about it, what would happen? As "Mind is the forerunner of all things" -"Mano Pubbangama Dhamma".
And if you eat meat as any other food, it's just a food. But if you think about how those animals get killed in order to come as your meal, then repent, you are accumulating karma. Because all your thoughts has vipaka. Can it be kusala or akusala? Of-cause you are not accumulating akusala karma of killing that animal, but akusala karma of akusala citta.