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Buddhism & Sexuality: My thoughts & Questions

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Buddhism & Sexuality: My thoughts & Questions

Postby Still Searching » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:37 am

Can Buddhists be gay? Is it wrong?
I understand that Buddhist Monks/Nuns cannot have sex nor even masturbate or have desires for another human.

As long as a lay Buddhist or non-Monk is faithful & loyal to their partner, are they allowed to be homosexual or bisexual?
Do they have to be married to have sex?
Is masturbation strictly prohibited?

How do Buddhists for about transgender people?
Is Gender Reassignment Surgery wrong?
Do they find Gender Identity Disorder disgusting?
Or are Buddhists okay with the LGBT community?

I do apologize for bringing this up, I know these questions can be very uncomfortable to answer for some Buddhists.
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Postby Still Searching » Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:23 am

"Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment." ~ Siddhārtha, Gautama Buddha

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Re: Buddhism & Sexuality: My thoughts & Questions

Postby Cittasanto » Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:59 am

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Buddhism & Sexuality: My thoughts & Questions

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:33 am

It should be pointed out that there are many ways to interpret the prohibitions against Pandikas:

"A type of person called a pandaka is occasionally mentioned in the Vinaya in contexts that make it clear that such a person is some kind of sexual non-conformist. The Vinaya also stipulates that pandakas are not allowed to be ordained, and if, inadvertently, one has been, he is expelled. According to commentary, this is because pandakas are "full of passions, unquenchable lust and are dominated by the desire for sex." The word pandaka has been translated as either hermaphrodite or eunuch, while Zwilling has recently suggested that it may simply mean a homosexual. It is more probable that ancient Indians, like most modern Asians, considered only the extremely effeminate, exhibitionist homosexual (the screaming queen in popular perception) to be deviant while the less obvious homosexual was simply considered a little more opportunistic or a little less fussy than other 'normal' males. As the Buddha seems to have had a profound understanding of human nature and have been remarkably free from prejudice, and as there is not evidence that homosexuals are any more libidinous or that they have any more difficulties in maintaining celibacy than heterosexuals, it seems unlikely that the Buddha would exclude homosexuals per se from the monastic life. The term pandaka therefore probably does not refer to homosexuals in general but rather to the effeminate, self-advertising and promiscuous homosexual."
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Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
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Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
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His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Buddhism & Sexuality: My thoughts & Questions

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:06 pm

Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta


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Re: Buddhism & Sexuality: My thoughts & Questions

Postby Annapurna » Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:33 pm

Wasn't there also something about using the right or wrong orifices...?

Anybody have a source?
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Re: Buddhism & Sexuality: My thoughts & Questions

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.


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