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Advance without a retreat

General discussion of issues related to Theravada Meditation, e.g. meditation postures, developing a regular sitting practice, skillfully relating to difficulties and hindrances, etc.
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purple planet
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Advance without a retreat

Postby purple planet » Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:18 pm

Because of pains i get in my joints i cant go to a retreat

is it possible to make progress without constant effort ?

if i meditate 3 hours a day will i make progress - or is constant mindfulness the only way ?

i practice vipasana noting (Mahasi Sayadaw) with labeling is there a better technique which fits better with not going to retreats ?
Please send merit to my dog named Mika who has passed away - thanks in advance

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Re: Advance without a retreat

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:23 pm

Don't overdo it! Try maybe two sessions, one in the morning and one in the evening, each an hour long. Otherwise, maintain mindfulness in your daily life and practice the rest of the Eightfold Path earnestly; that's a surefire way to progress. Retreats are great but a consistent, energetic but compassionate daily practice is more important in the long run anyway.

Wish you the best!
Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta


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Re: Advance without a retreat

Postby James the Giant » Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:26 pm

Then,
saturated with joy,
you will put an end to suffering and stress.

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Re: Advance without a retreat

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:11 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Advance without a retreat

Postby purple planet » Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:19 am

Ok i will explain more what i do - i now meditated for 50+50+50+50 walking sitting in the morning and 20.... in the evaning i dont see no improvment excpet the time - i did do this only for 1-2 days and the stop and do it again -

now while writing this i think my pelvic is killing me so i will go back to 20 - but for instance i dont think i can today to do more

i will try on a chair james

my main thing is this : i want to "see" results as anyone would but i also want to have faith in the practice - so i will feel good enough to teach my two grandparents before its to late - so i do have some urgancey in this - BUT even without this its hard for me to see progress - the only progress i had was being able to sit longer (50) but now that is gone also
Please send merit to my dog named Mika who has passed away - thanks in advance

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Re: Advance without a retreat

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:42 am

Don't worry about time; especially with the Mahasi method, it's far more valuable to have twenty minutes of mindful practice than fifty minutes of painful, slow practice. Try setting a slightly challenging but sustainable goal, like thirty minutes walking and thirty minutes sitting twice a day, and stick to that. You don't need to be enlightened to teach your grandparents anything :)
Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta


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Re: Advance without a retreat

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:06 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.


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