Mr Man wrote:I'm not sure about actual realization but I think the conceptualization is certainly fairly straightforward and not overly technical.mikenz66 wrote:but is realization straightforward?
But the conceptualization is still just the "finger pointing at the moon", isn't it? And which conceptual map are you referring to, the commentarial progress of insight, or some other map?
Mr Man wrote:In my opinion it is not really that broad and diverse. The key uniting element was practicing within the vinaya and following a certain style of practice.mikenz66 wrote:The Forest tradition (in it's broad context, not just the Ajahn Chah group) is very diverse
But which style of practice is that? I see a huge diversity, even in the Western Ajahn Chah students. Ajahn Brahm and some others teach a Visuddhimagga-strength jhana approach. Many others, such as Ajahn Tiradhammo, teach a vipassana-oriented style that is quite compatible with what many Mahasi teachers teach. (On one retreat I did with Ajahn Tiradhammo he mentioned Ven Nyanaponika's book Heart of Buddhist Meditation as a key reference in his early development).