No, that's not what I mean. I didn't even know of jhāyanta(contemplation) before this.Cittasanto wrote:DanieLion, Micro.
Out of curiosity what term are each of you using meditation to represent? There is a potentiality for miscommunication here, and if you are applying different meanings based on different rendering of two different words then it would be better to clear that up early on so both are on the same page. than circular conversation using different meanings for the same word/s. The two words are bhàvanà - cultivation, development = which I believe Danial is using.
jhàyanta - related to Jhana and meaning contemplation, meditation = which I believe Micro is using
I can try to explain, what I am talking of.
If it's gonna happen, Nibbana itself timely will occure after returning from nirodha samāpatti. Into that state one drops only from nevasaññā-nasaññayatana. Mastering the jhanas is preceded and accompanied by stable virtue and generosity. It's a step-by-step programm, where each step leads to a more pure state of being. This is why I say, all all the Buddhist system is meditation, because all the elements are just parts of that big program. Take one thing away and it won't work anymore.
Regards :-)