Difference between citta-samadhi and dhamma-samadhi?

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Difference between citta-samadhi and dhamma-samadhi?

Postby lojong1 » Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:46 am

What are citta-samadhi and dhamma-samadhi?
I just saw them in Samyutta Nikaya, (edited by Feer - bk 2 of 5, not in front of me right now)

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Re: Difference between citta-samadhi and dhamma-samadhi?

Postby tiltbillings » Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:12 am

lojong1 wrote:What are citta-samadhi and dhamma-samadhi?
I just saw them in Samyutta Nikaya, (edited by Feer - bk 2 of 5, not in front of me right now)
SN iv 350; CDB vol ii page 1367.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.

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Re: Difference between citta-samadhi and dhamma-samadhi?

Postby lojong1 » Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:12 pm

Thanks Tilt,
that is the dhamma-samadhi/ righteous concentration/ concentration of the dhamma.
I am confused now about where I saw these in the first place because they were referenced together online and now I can't find them in searches. Maybe they were in someone's forum signature.

If anyone sees citta-samadhi in the suttas, or any different dhamma-samadhi entries, give us a shout?

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Re: Difference between citta-samadhi and dhamma-samadhi?

Postby daverupa » Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:21 pm

:sage:
    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting oneself one protects others? By the pursuit, development, and cultivation of the four establishments of mindfulness. It is in such a way that by protecting oneself one protects others.

    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting others one protects oneself? By patience, harmlessness, goodwill, and sympathy. It is in such a way that by protecting others one protects oneself.
- Sedaka Sutta [SN 47.19]

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Re: Difference between citta-samadhi and dhamma-samadhi?

Postby lojong1 » Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:28 pm

Oh, that was quick. Wonderful.

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Re: Difference between citta-samadhi and dhamma-samadhi?

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:30 pm

Try SN42.13 pāṭaliya sutta
a version that is in need of certain editorial can be found here
http://www.metta.lk/tipitaka/2Sutta-Pit ... ggo-e.html
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