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jhana pre buddhist, hinduism today and so on.

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Postby mikenz66 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:18 am

Hi Robert,

I've always been confused about this point. If jhana was practised by other ascetics pre-Buddha, why is it said to be impossible today. Or is it the mastery in a Buddhist sense that is impossible.

A reference would be useful, too.

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Dear tilt and mike
I know you both like the mahasi system si I dug out a citation from one of that group which makes some good points about the difficulty of jhana


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It seems there is a difference of opinion in this matter, which is not surprising given which sources are being accepted as authoritative.

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"I don't envision a single thing that, when developed & cultivated, leads to such great benefit as the mind. The mind, when developed & cultivated, leads to great benefit."

"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."

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