Penn & Teller's Bullshit: the Dalai Lama

[danieLion]

Anyone else seen this? Is this Bullshit bullshit?

[Ben]

Thanks for that, Daniel.
A comedy piece based on Chinese propaganda.
Kind regards,
Ben

[LonesomeYogurt]

P&T: BS is a great show, but like all episodes, this one obviously deals in exaggerations and caricatures rather than concrete facts. That being said, there is a lot to criticize about feudal Tibet before Chinese rule; how much the Dalai Lama had to do with that, however, is up for debate.

It's a contentious issue with multiple sides, so feel free to laugh at their sacred cow-slaying but don't take it too seriously.

[tiltbillings]

P&T: BS is a great show, but like all episodes, this one obviously deals in exaggerations and caricatures rather than concrete facts. That being said, there is a lot to criticize about feudal Tibet before Chinese rule; how much the Dalai Lama had to do with that, however, is up for debate.

How much did the present DL have to do with the pre-Chinese feudal system? None whatsoever, and he certainly had no real opportunity to do anything about it given his age when the Chinese invaded Tibet.

It's a contentious issue with multiple sides, so feel free to laugh at their sacred cow-slaying but don't take it too seriously.

The last people to listen to concerning Tibet is the Chinese government and the second to last people to listen to are the unwitting stooges who repeat the Chinese government's crappola.

[Mr Man]

As LonesomeYogurt mentioned the above clip "deals in exaggerations and caricatures". it is political satire. But are they just repeating Chinese government's crappola? Is it based on Chinese propaganda? And if it were influenced by Chinese propaganda is Chinese propaganda more nefarious than say US propaganda?

[tiltbillings]

is Chinese propaganda more nefarious than say US propaganda?

Probably.

[Mr Man]

Okay, but are they just repeating chinese government propaganda?

[tiltbillings]

Okay, but are they just repeating chinese government propaganda?

Are they?

[Mr Man]

Okay, but are they just repeating chinese government propaganda?

Are they?

I don't know. I didn't say it.

[tiltbillings]

Okay, but are they just repeating chinese government propaganda?

Are they?

I don't know. I didn't say it.

I am watching it now, and P&T are spouting garbage. Some of it comes from the Commies and some it is just distortion of the what happened. If you want to defend these two bozos ball-peen hammer approach, go ahead, but it is not worth my time.

[BuddhaSoup]

Penn is a self-described anarcho-capitalist, Ayn Rand devotee, and sits on the board of the Cato Institute, an organization founded by the infamous Koch brothers. He disputes the science of climate change, and named one of his children 'Moxie Crimefighter." My diagnosis: possible douchebag.

Michael Parenti, featured in the video, is in part an apologist for communism, suggesting that he and Jillette may share an affinity for Communist regimes like the PRC.

Aside from my snarky take on this video, it's factually incorrect. It seems a load of the same bullshit that the Penn/Teller program suggests it is revealing. I don't mind a well founded critique of HHDL, or of any public person, so long as it is fair. This segment is deserving of ridicule, but I guess I'm not surprised that it came of out the same ideology that supports the Koch brothers.

What's good for Tibet is not good for China, and the billions that the Koch brothers earn from their businesses. "Smooch!" That's the sound of Jillette planting a big one on David Koch's butt.

[Raitanator]

In addition to communist propaganda, it seems like there's new kadampa propaganda, too, added to the soup. Well, basically, some cults that have separated themselves from rest of tibetan buddhism use these same arguments.

[Mr Man]

Thanks for the info BuddhaSoup. It puts a different twist on the motivation.

[robertk]

P and t Sucked in by long discredited Chinese propaganda.

[santa100]

They forgot to add a bunch more weights onto the Chinese Communist pan to account for the sudden spike of Tibetan's self-immolations. Bet you it would completely crumble their Good/Bad scale..

[tiltbillings]

. . . That's the sound of Jillette planting a big one on David Koch's butt.

That also explains the defense of Wal-Mart and the arguing against gun control. They arewithout a doubt Bozos.

[BuddhaSoup]

Tilt, I can say I have not noticed until today the Irish at the foot of your post. Excellent! Go raibh maith agat! I spent the best summer and autumn of my life as a student in Dublin.

[danieLion]

...the science of climate change....

mere statistical analysis is not necessarily science

[Ben]

I would appreciate it if we could remain on-topic.
Thanks

Ben

[danieLion]

Michael Parenti, featured in the video, is in part an apologist for communism, suggesting that he and Jillette may share an affinity for Communist regimes like the PRC.

Doesn't fit Jillete's "profile."