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ridding yourself of Desire

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ridding yourself of Desire

Postby Seth19930 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:04 pm

If the cause of all suffering is desire, then how do you start the path without first wanting to? and if the answer to that is; you start the path by understanding its right, then how do you first understand without a want to understand? or is this the exception to the rule? OR is there meant to be suffering experienced along (or at the beginning of) the path? This has been my biggest issue with understanding yet, so any help would be greatly appreciated.

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: ridding yourself of Desire

Postby SarathW » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:04 pm

Say you have desire, craving, grasping or clinging to smoking. You come to the realisation that smoking is bad for you. You have desire for quitting smoking. So you work towards it and quit smoking. Nnow your are happier and healthier person.
Nothing wrong with that desire!
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.


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