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Agganna Sutta

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths. What can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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Re: Agganna Sutta

Postby son of dhamma » Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:58 pm

Sometimes no Buddhas arise in the world. Sometimes they do. When it happens, it is for the welfare and happiness of men, out of compassion for all creatures. For a long, long time he has been working to become a Buddha. He met other Buddhas along the way. And after his long striving he attains his final life, yet not without showing everyone else how to get there.

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Re: Agganna Sutta

Postby Jason » Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:19 am

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Re: Agganna Sutta

Postby son of dhamma » Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:45 am

Jason these are wonderful points to make. I agree that these scriptural points are quite parodied. I think that taking a side with the extremes of scientific theory and the extremes of literal interpretation of scripture outside dense context is just unhelpful. Is it--I don't know--like a middle way or something, that we're looking for?
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Sometimes no Buddhas arise in the world. Sometimes they do. When it happens, it is for the welfare and happiness of men, out of compassion for all creatures. For a long, long time he has been working to become a Buddha. He met other Buddhas along the way. And after his long striving he attains his final life, yet not without showing everyone else how to get there.

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Re: Agganna Sutta

Postby Will » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:10 pm

I only skimmed this thread, so may have missed any explanation of "made of mind" around verses 10-13? Why throw that word into the rebirth into higher, then lower realms?

Also curious is that the particular Abhassara realm we first abide in is about 12 realms above the present Manussa realm of humans. Depending on how one counts, adding up the degeneration steps approaching the Manussa, we get about 12 steps.
A bodhisattva does not become weary of evil beings nor does he commit the error of bringing forth thoughts inclined to reject them and cast them aside. Avatamsaka Sutra, ch. 25

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Re: Agganna Sutta

Postby gavesako » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:39 pm

New video with nice graphics to illustrate the meaning:


Bhante Anandajoti: Devolution and Evolution

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFaoyp_wrlY

This video is built around a talk given in the Vivekavana Buddhist Society, Bukit Mertajam, Penang, Malaysia on January 6th 2013.

The talk is illustrated with infographics describing the planes of existence and with photographs and complimentary text.

The talk describes the various ways the universe comes to destruction, and how it re-evolves.

It also talks about the moral devolution of humans, before a reversal happens which eventually leads to the emergence of Metteyya (Maitreya) Buddha.

The talk is mainly based on two discourses in the Dīghanikāya, Aggaññasutta (DN 27) and Cakkavattisīhanādasutta (DN 26).

The first video in this series on The Planes of Existence is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzPIeCaV-is
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Kiṃkusalagavesī anuttaraṃ santivarapadaṃ pariyesamāno... (MN 26)

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