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Happy Australia Day!!!!!!!!!!!

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Postby tiltbillings » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:28 pm

So, what is this? Your Independence Day?
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Postby David N. Snyder » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:38 pm

Is that the day the first convicts arrived? Were there female prisoners too? Where did you guys come from, if not?

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Postby Ben » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:00 pm

Its the day (26th Jan 1788) that the British human trafficker, Governor Arthur Philip, and his human cargo arrived illegally in Port Jackson, createda colony which was in effect a prison witout walls, and began the wholesale dispossession of the first inhabitant's of their land. Amongst some, Australia Day is also known as Invasion Day.
Ironic, really, given our Government's inhumane treatment of asylum seekers coming to our shore by boat.
Having said that, Australians eschew nationalism so the day is celebrated by many by having a barbeque and watching the cricket, or involved in some other leisure or social activity.
As Australia Day falls on a Saturday this year, the following Monday is the public holiday.
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Re: Happy Australia Day!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby Kim OHara » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:05 pm

Hi, David and Tilt,
Independence Day is the nearest equivalent but it's complicated ...
Here is some stuff about the major complication: http://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/history/australia-day-invasion-day

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Postby Ben » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:08 pm

David N. Snyder wrote:Is that the day the first convicts arrived? Were there female prisoners too? Where did you guys come from, if not?


Yes, there were some female convicts in the first fleet. A famous incident occured on the first days of the new colony. The male convicts and marines and female convicts who had been kept on separate ships on the voyage out, engaged in a spontaneous mass orgy.
More female convicts came out in the second fleet. One ship, in particular, was known as the "floating brothel".

As far as I know, none of my forebears were first fleeters. There were later convicts with the same surname as mine but I haven't done a geneological study to determine whether they were my direct ancestors. Some of my forebears came from Ireland in the 1840s and m1850s, some from Ireland later. On my father's side, Southern Ireland, and from my mother's side, Northern Ireland (I think).
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Postby cooran » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:10 pm

Hello tilt, David, all,

Australia Day History

The quest for the celebration of a united Australian Day and the parallel search for a unique sense of 'Australian identity' commenced within a few short years of the First Fleet landing of 1788 and subsequent white settlement of the land.
The following overview gives a chronological account of how settlers and Indigenous Australians have alternatively acknowledged, celebrated and mourned the 26 January and its significance since 1788.
• 1788 to 1888
• 1889 to 1938
• 1939 to 1988
• 1989 to Present
• Chronology
• Bibliography

Since the initial years of white settlement, Australians have celebrated a national day. In the process, they have also defined what it means to be Australian. January 26 has traditionally marked the landing of Captain Arthur Phillip at Port Jackson in present-day Sydney, thereby claiming Australia for the British Empire. Early settlers, perhaps naturally, marked the anniversary of the colony's establishment. Australia Day has consequently evolved from a small commemorative New South Wales holiday into a major national celebration. Though it has often been criticised, it has nevertheless emerged as the most inclusive celebration of a national day in Australia, expressing the national diversity which has become such an important part of the Australian national character. Whereas once it celebrated the staunchly British nature of Australian society (or was disparaged for this approach), it now embraces multicultural Australia, including all ethnic backgrounds, racial differences and political viewpoints. Australia Day today is a celebration of diversity and tolerance in Australian society.
http://www.australiaday.com.au/studentr ... story.aspx

My ancestors were from Poland originally. One male, after moving to England and joining the military there, came to Australia as an escort for a ship carrying convicts. After discharge, he eventually settled on farming land in southern Queensland and raised a family.
Yes, there were female convicts, but many Australians claim descent from immigrants from Great Britain and other waves of immigration from very many European, Asian, Pacific Islander and African countries since then.

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Postby cooran » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:12 pm

Ben said: A famous incident occured on the first days of the new colony. The male convicts and marines and female convicts who had been kept on separate ships on the voyage out, engaged in a spontaneous mass orgy.
More female convicts came out in the second fleet. One ship, in particular, was known as the "floating brothel".


Hi Ben,

I had never heard of these incidents - could you give some links to where I can read about them?

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Postby Ben » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:16 pm

Chris, sure.
"The Commonwealth of Thieves: the Sydney experiment" by Tom Keneally.
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Postby Ben » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:26 pm

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Postby cooran » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:26 pm

Thanks Ben!!
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Postby cooran » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:43 pm

Australian Facts For Australia Day
January 26th 2007 00:25

As today is Australia Day - here are some interesting Australian facts.

* The Australian Coat Of Arms has on it a kangaroo and an emu. The reason for this is that the kangaroo and the emu cannot go backwards but can only walk forwards.

* Australia is the sixth largest country after Russia, Canada, China, the United States of America and Brazil. However our population remains relatively small at just over 20 million.

* Australia is the only country that is a continent. The mainland is the largest island and the smallest, flattest continent on Earth.

* Australia is the driest, inhabited continent on earth. The only continent drier than Australia is Antarctica.

* The interior has one of the lowest rainfalls in the world and about three-quarters of the land is arid or semi-arid.

* More than 40 000 years before the arrival of European settlers, there were an estimated 300,000 indigenous Australians living on the continent.

* On the 26th of January, 1788, The First Fleet of 11 ships with 1500 aboard, half of them convicts from Britain, arrived at the south eastern shores of Australia. The town of Sydney grew from that first small, British penal settlement. Australia day commemorates this.

* In 1988 at the Bicentenary, 51% of Australians couldn't see any good reason for celebrating.

* There are many claims to the fact that that the first European settlers in Australia drank more alcohol per head of population than any other community in the history of mankind.

* Convicts being transported to New South Wales continued up until 1840, but they were still taken to Western Australia until 1868.

* Australia, founded by convicts. The homicide rate is in Australia is 1.8 per 100,000 of population. The United States was founded by religious zealots. It's homicide rate is 6.3 per 100,000. Almost 400% greater than Australia.

* About 160,000 convicts arrived over 80 years. That compares with free settler arrivals as high as 50 000 a year.

* About 30% of the population was born overseas

* Four out of 10 Australians are migrants or the first-generation children of migrants.

* Aborigines, the indigenous people, now only make up 1.5 % of the population. There are no Tasmanian full blooded aboriginals left. They were also different in appearance from the mainland aborigines.

* Sydney is the largest city with over 4 million people, while the capital Canberra has around 300,000.
http://www.funfacts.com.au/australian-f ... ralia-day/
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Postby David N. Snyder » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:50 pm

cooran wrote:* Australia, founded by convicts. The homicide rate is in Australia is 1.8 per 100,000 of population. The United States was founded by religious zealots. It's homicide rate is 6.3 per 100,000. Almost 400% greater than Australia.


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I love that one. Thanks for the history lessons. Australia is cool.

And Australians are particularly good at sports, Olympic medals, etc., per capita.

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(Hasn't Peter Garrett fallen from this social consciousness?)
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Postby mikenz66 » Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:16 am

Wow, I'm actually in Australia for Australia day, but since I'm in Melbourne Airport waiting for a flight to Adelaide I haven't noticed much in the way of festivities. I did watch a movie (Mabo http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2112195/) about they court cases in Queensland about the ownership issues of aboriginal people on the Torres Strait islands http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torres_Strait_Islands ...

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Postby Ben » Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:26 am

tiltbillings wrote:

(Hasn't Peter Garrett fallen from this social consciousness?)


Tilt,
You could say, "its complicated". Peter Garrett, imho, has been an excellent cabinet minister in a very deeply flawed Labor Govt. Unfortunately, as a member of the parliamentary labor party and because of deep conventions whereby individual labor party members are forced to follow party policy, he has had to administer decisions that he personally did not support.

Chris:

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There are no Tasmanian full blooded aboriginals left. They were also different in appearance from the mainland aborigines.

The second statememnt above is technically incorrect. It was a fiction mainly perpetuated by the Royal Society (UK) that the Tasmanian Aborigine was a separate race, bound to die out due to the advent of the influence of civilization. In the 1840s Tasmanian aborigines were worth more dead than alive as biological specimens for collectors in Europe. The Hobart Mercury details a number of incidents where freshly interred corpses were raided. In reality, the original inhabitants of Tasmania were genetically no different to the population on the mainland.
The first statement is technically correct, but its much more complicated. George Augustus Robinson was the first "Protector of the Aborigines" in Van Diemen's Land, and his campaigns to 'save' the remnant population was actually an instrument in state-sponsored dispossession. Those that did not get sent to the unhygienic reserve on Flinders Island in Bass Strait, known to the Aboriginals as 'Island of the Dead', were either abducted or went willingly with the "rude wife-snatching men" of the lawless sealing colonies in the Bass Strait Islands, which our present Tasmanian aborigines descended from.
Our past inhumanity towards our indigenous peoples was unspeakable and it continues to cast a long shadow on Australian society today.
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Postby Ben » Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:38 am

plwk wrote:Happy Aussie Day mates :mrgreen:


Cheers, mate!
:toast: (Diet non-alcoholic ginger (root) beer!)

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