tiltbillings wrote:First of all, I have no idea what your response to Geoff's msg is saying. But what I am saying, and what I do believe Geoff is saying is what I said above: One needs to keep in mind that in the Buddha's teachings truths are cognitions, not objective facts. The Buddha is not talking about the height of Everest. He is talking about being free of greed, hatred, and delusion, which is an experiential, cognitive process.Cittasanto wrote:care to explain?
That is, in the Dhamma the only way truths are truly experienced and truly known (not as a matter of belief) is by cognition. The Four Noble Truths start with pointing to experience, not a matter of belief. Awakening is not something one must believe in in order for there to be awakening. It is what one experiences with the destruction of greed, hatred, and delusion.
If you have no idea what i was saying, how do you know the/a point was missed?
What I was saying was (to put it another way with a little extra) - Just because something is known in a particular way, or fully known at a certain point - and this can have its effect on the application of this knowledge - it doesn't actually stop something that is true from being true. Sacca is sacca, one may only need a more complete theory/way of measuring to get at a more exact understanding.