sutta(s) with most detail on jhana practice?
sutta(s) with most detail on jhana practice?
are there any that give more detailed instruction? how to begin, maintain, rise to the next, etc.?
Re: sutta(s) with most detail on jhana practice?
More detailed instruction than what?
- "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting oneself one protects others? By the pursuit, development, and cultivation of the four establishments of mindfulness. It is in such a way that by protecting oneself one protects others.
"And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting others one protects oneself? By patience, harmlessness, goodwill, and sympathy. It is in such a way that by protecting others one protects oneself.
- Sedaka Sutta [SN 47.19]
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Re: sutta(s) with most detail on jhana practice?
Than the suttas with the least detail and with middling detail.daverupa wrote:More detailed instruction than what?
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
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Re: sutta(s) with most detail on jhana practice?
Greetings,
I like this...
MN 44: Culavedalla Sutta
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Metta,
Retro.
I like this...
MN 44: Culavedalla Sutta
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Metta,
Retro.
"Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things."
Re: sutta(s) with most detail on jhana practice?
The seven factors of awakening (satta bojjhaṅgā) get into detail - SN 46.3 is a good one. Here is a good talk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZgaDj0YN9s
Beware of becoming obsessed with attaining jhāna, you run the risk of wasting a lot of precious time. From what I have been taught, it is something that will occur with relative ease through proper development. Do not forget about everything the Buddha teaches before samādhi. Just my 2 cents.
Beware of becoming obsessed with attaining jhāna, you run the risk of wasting a lot of precious time. From what I have been taught, it is something that will occur with relative ease through proper development. Do not forget about everything the Buddha teaches before samādhi. Just my 2 cents.
“Life is swept along, short is the life span; no shelters exist for one who has reached old age. Seeing clearly this danger in death, a seeker of peace should drop the world’s bait.” SN 1.3
Re: sutta(s) with most detail on jhana practice?
perhaps I did not read it carefully enough but I only see a very small section on Jhana practice. Am i missing something?retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,
I like this...
MN 44: Culavedalla Sutta
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Metta,
Retro.
Re: sutta(s) with most detail on jhana practice?
Hi Alan,
If you'll take one by one the criteria from the Anapanasati sutta (say, how calm is the body, etc.) or Satipatthana sutta (e.g. whether the mind is spacious - "mahaggata" or constricted), insert them into the framework of Dvedhavitakka sutta instead of two kinds of thinking, comprehend the right effort through redirection of attention described in Bhikkhunupassaya sutta and Ahara sutta, and consult Gavi sutta on moving to the next jhana, - you'll have a solid roadmap.
Note that Ven. Thanissaro's "theme" is his rendering of Pali "nimitta".
Best wishes, Dmytro
Jhana practice is a multifaceted activity.alan... wrote:are there any that give more detailed instruction? how to begin, maintain, rise to the next, etc.?
If you'll take one by one the criteria from the Anapanasati sutta (say, how calm is the body, etc.) or Satipatthana sutta (e.g. whether the mind is spacious - "mahaggata" or constricted), insert them into the framework of Dvedhavitakka sutta instead of two kinds of thinking, comprehend the right effort through redirection of attention described in Bhikkhunupassaya sutta and Ahara sutta, and consult Gavi sutta on moving to the next jhana, - you'll have a solid roadmap.
Note that Ven. Thanissaro's "theme" is his rendering of Pali "nimitta".
Best wishes, Dmytro
Re: sutta(s) with most detail on jhana practice?
Link fixed; the translator's introduction probably misunderstands pasadaniya nimitta.Dmytro wrote:Bhikkhunupassaya sutta
- "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting oneself one protects others? By the pursuit, development, and cultivation of the four establishments of mindfulness. It is in such a way that by protecting oneself one protects others.
"And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting others one protects oneself? By patience, harmlessness, goodwill, and sympathy. It is in such a way that by protecting others one protects oneself.
- Sedaka Sutta [SN 47.19]
Re: sutta(s) with most detail on jhana practice?
thanks much!Dmytro wrote:Hi Alan,
Jhana practice is a multifaceted activity.alan... wrote:are there any that give more detailed instruction? how to begin, maintain, rise to the next, etc.?
If you'll take one by one the criteria from the Anapanasati sutta (say, how calm is the body, etc.) or Satipatthana sutta (e.g. whether the mind is spacious - "mahaggata" or constricted), insert them into the framework of Dvedhavitakka sutta instead of two kinds of thinking, comprehend the right effort through redirection of attention described in Bhikkhunupassaya sutta and Ahara sutta, and consult Gavi sutta on moving to the next jhana, - you'll have a solid roadmap.
Note that Ven. Thanissaro's "theme" is his rendering of Pali "nimitta".
Best wishes, Dmytro
Re: sutta(s) with most detail on jhana practice?
You are welcome! Each sutta, for example Tapussa, takes a somewhat different perspective on jhana, and you get a multidimensional image as a result.alan... wrote:thanks much!
Re: sutta(s) with most detail on jhana practice?
cool, i'm reading them now.Dmytro wrote:You are welcome! Each sutta, for example Tapussa, takes a somewhat different perspective on jhana, and you get a multidimensional image as a result.alan... wrote:thanks much!