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Hate speech

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Re: Hate speech

Postby David N. Snyder » Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:28 am

It is best to attack the message of those positions, not the messenger. We may not know fully how a person actually feels, except of course in some extreme cases of those stating their memberships in hate groups.

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Re: Hate speech

Postby Jechbi » Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:30 am

Thank you. I'll be mindful to expunge the term "hate speech" from usage here.

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Re: Hate speech

Postby retrofuturist » Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:36 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Re: Hate speech

Postby Ngawang Drolma. » Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:43 am

I think hate speech should be identified as such and pointed out to the person who is doing it. If possible, in a kind way.
And if it hurts the person who is using that sort of speech to hear it, perhaps it's the kind of hurt that can lead to insight.

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Re: Hate speech

Postby retrofuturist » Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:46 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Hate speech

Postby Ben » Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:54 am

Hi Jechbi

Sometimes the best thing that can be done (or said) is to do (or say) nothing.
What I mean to say is that some people have in inate ability to dig themselves deeper in the cesspit.
Also, remember that aversion cannot be conquered with more aversion.
Metta

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Re: Hate speech

Postby Cittasanto » Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:31 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.


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