sutta(s) with most detail on jhana practice?

[alan...]

are there any that give more detailed instruction? how to begin, maintain, rise to the next, etc.?

[daverupa]

More detailed instruction than what?

[tiltbillings]

More detailed instruction than what?

Than the suttas with the least detail and with middling detail.

[retrofuturist]

Greetings,

I like this...

MN 44: Culavedalla Sutta
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

Metta,
Retro.

[SDC]

The seven factors of awakening (satta bojjhaṅgā) get into detail - SN 46.3 is a good one. Here is a good talk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZgaDj0YN9s

Beware of becoming obsessed with attaining jhāna, you run the risk of wasting a lot of precious time. From what I have been taught, it is something that will occur with relative ease through proper development. Do not forget about everything the Buddha teaches before samādhi. Just my 2 cents.

[alan...]

Greetings,

I like this...

MN 44: Culavedalla Sutta
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

Metta,
Retro.

perhaps I did not read it carefully enough but I only see a very small section on Jhana practice. Am i missing something?

[Dmytro]

Hi Alan,

are there any that give more detailed instruction? how to begin, maintain, rise to the next, etc.?

Jhana practice is a multifaceted activity.

If you'll take one by one the criteria from the Anapanasati sutta (say, how calm is the body, etc.) or Satipatthana sutta (e.g. whether the mind is spacious - "mahaggata" or constricted), insert them into the framework of Dvedhavitakka sutta instead of two kinds of thinking, comprehend the right effort through redirection of attention described in Bhikkhunupassaya sutta and Ahara sutta, and consult Gavi sutta on moving to the next jhana, - you'll have a solid roadmap.

Note that Ven. Thanissaro's "theme" is his rendering of Pali "nimitta".

Best wishes, Dmytro

[daverupa]

Bhikkhunupassaya sutta

Link fixed; the translator's introduction probably misunderstands pasadaniya nimitta.

[alan...]

Hi Alan,

are there any that give more detailed instruction? how to begin, maintain, rise to the next, etc.?

Jhana practice is a multifaceted activity.

If you'll take one by one the criteria from the Anapanasati sutta (say, how calm is the body, etc.) or Satipatthana sutta (e.g. whether the mind is spacious - "mahaggata" or constricted), insert them into the framework of Dvedhavitakka sutta instead of two kinds of thinking, comprehend the right effort through redirection of attention described in Bhikkhunupassaya sutta and Ahara sutta, and consult Gavi sutta on moving to the next jhana, - you'll have a solid roadmap.

Note that Ven. Thanissaro's "theme" is his rendering of Pali "nimitta".

Best wishes, Dmytro

thanks much!

[Dmytro]

thanks much!

You are welcome! Each sutta, for example Tapussa, takes a somewhat different perspective on jhana, and you get a multidimensional image as a result.

[alan...]

thanks much!

You are welcome! Each sutta, for example Tapussa, takes a somewhat different perspective on jhana, and you get a multidimensional image as a result.

cool, i'm reading them now.