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contemplating the aggregates

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contemplating the aggregates

Postby alan... » Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:01 am

can this be done in sitting meditation? how does one contemplate each aggregate? in particular consciousness?

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Postby retrofuturist » Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:01 am

Greetings Alan...,

Yes ~ instructions are in the Satipatthana Sutta.

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Re: contemplating the aggregates

Postby alan... » Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:40 am

further, are the aggregates mind only or do they include the physical body and other physical things. for example the form aggregate: is that how the mind perceives form or is it literally talking about form as the body?

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Re: contemplating the aggregates

Postby polarbear101 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:59 am

"I don't envision a single thing that, when developed & cultivated, leads to such great benefit as the mind. The mind, when developed & cultivated, leads to great benefit."

"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."

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Re: contemplating the aggregates

Postby retrofuturist » Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:08 am

Greetings Alan...,

As an alternative to "think on these things", perhaps you could see it as "perceive as [instructed by the sutta]..."

The sutta advises that it is such ~ perceive experience in accordance with the Dhamma the sutta teaches.

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Re: contemplating the aggregates

Postby alan... » Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:14 am

perhaps a clear definition is in order?

form: the physical objects that are seen and known by the mind? the actual act of cognizing physical objects? the body?

feelings: painful, pleasant and neutral feelings?

perception: not sure about this one, many different definitions out there. i believe it's the defining of what an object is by the mind. can someone elaborate?

mental formations: volitional thought, the "doer" of the mind.

consciousness: the knower of the mind?

from another viewpoint, isn't it all in consciousness? like consciousness is a jar and all the other things are it's contents?

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Re: contemplating the aggregates

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"I don't envision a single thing that, when developed & cultivated, leads to such great benefit as the mind. The mind, when developed & cultivated, leads to great benefit."

"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."


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