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most distilled dhamma?

Postby alan... » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:26 pm

as small as you can get it but have it still be a complete path that someone could follow without anything else.

the theravada dhamma is IMMENSE, i'm constantly trying to whittle it down to something that i can wrap my head around.

a book?

a practice?

a certain school?

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Re: most distilled dhamma?

Postby Alex123 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:55 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: most distilled dhamma?

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:03 pm

Sabbe dhamma nalam abhinivesaya - nothing should be clung to as me or mine.

It may not be all that you need, but in terms of the essential nature of the Buddha's teaching, I'd say you can't get much better.
Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta


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Re: most distilled dhamma?

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:30 pm

Be mindful.
• • • • (Upasampadā: 24th June, 1979)

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Re: most distilled dhamma?

Postby reflection » Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:00 pm

Just stop trying to get your head around it. Buddhism is not a thing of the intellect. Be happy to have a "don't know" mind. If there is not a lot you are sure of, simply see it as it is. You can't follow anything external forever, anyway. You'll have to become your own guide trough your own suffering and its causes. The practice then simply becomes to let go of these causes.

Good luck!
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Re: most distilled dhamma?

Postby daverupa » Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:03 pm

Distilling the Dhamma means thinking with it, not thinking about it, neh?

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Re: most distilled dhamma?

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:21 pm

Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta


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Re: most distilled dhamma?

Postby retrofuturist » Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:27 pm

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Re: most distilled dhamma?

Postby polarbear101 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:27 pm

"I don't envision a single thing that, when developed & cultivated, leads to such great benefit as the mind. The mind, when developed & cultivated, leads to great benefit."

"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."

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Somwhat distilled Dhamma

Postby Prasadachitta » Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:47 pm

Pay attention.

Know the state of your mind.

Pay attention.

See how the mind changes.

Pay attention.

Renounce what is unwholesome.

Pay attention

Cultivate what is wholesome.

Pay attention and continue to strive.
"Beautifully taught is the Lord's Dhamma, immediately apparent, timeless, of the nature of a personal invitation, progressive, to be attained by the wise, each for himself." Anguttara Nikaya V.332

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Re: most distilled dhamma?

Postby ground » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:23 am

The most distilled version of dhamma is transmitted in SN 35.23: Sabba sutta. But the only appropiate way of dealing with such distilled versions of dhamma is immediate understanding which is an understanding that is abandonment. That may appear too difficult since the habit to do something in order to build up something is so deeply engrained.
The next but already more elaborate version of distilled dhamma is SN 35.28: Adittapariyaya Sutta ("the fire sermon") which may however be felt to be as inappropriate as SN 35.23 for the same reason. :sage:

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Re: most distilled dhamma?

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• • • • (Upasampadā: 24th June, 1979)

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Re: most distilled dhamma?

Postby Mr Man » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:15 am

"Then, Bāhiya, you should train yourself thus: In reference to the seen, there will be only the seen. In reference to the heard, only the heard. In reference to the sensed, only the sensed. In reference to the cognized, only the cognized. That is how you should train yourself. When for you there will be only the seen in reference to the seen, only the heard in reference to the heard, only the sensed in reference to the sensed, only the cognized in reference to the cognized, then, Bāhiya, there is no you in connection with that. When there is no you in connection with that, there is no you there. When there is no you there, you are neither here nor yonder nor between the two. This, just this, is the end of stress."

Bāhiya Sutta
Ud 1.10
PTS: Ud 6
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

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