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What is the last thing to let go? - Dhamma Wheel

What is the last thing to let go?

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What is the last thing to let go?

Postby SarathW » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:06 am

I am just think in term of six senses and ten fetters. Is there something you let go last? Say I let go my eye, ear, tongue etc consciousness.
I think all this is not me, mine myself in terms of mental formations and body.

But "I" still see "I" am sitting here and writing this post.

So how can "I" let go everything and dive into Nirvana? :)
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Re: What is the last thing to let go?

Postby Murkve » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:27 am

It is my understanding that the absolute last thing to be let go is attachment to Dhamma.

However in terms of the dismantling of the self, I am not sure of the order here. I'd be very interested in how this is accomplished as well.
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Re: What is the last thing to let go?

Postby Prasadachitta » Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:17 am

Conceit, restlessness, & ignorance are the last to go. Craving for sense pleasures comes to an end before these but that does not mean that ones senses do not function.

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Re: What is the last thing to let go?

Postby ground » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:00 am

Life. :sage:

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Re: What is the last thing to let go?

Postby manas » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:20 am

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: What is the last thing to let go?

Postby equilibrium » Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:23 pm

Something of interest.....
Based on your other recent thread & pdf: viewtopic.php?f=44&t=16202&p=231246#p231246
A Manual of Abhidhamma: under "The Realisation of Nibbana" on Page 84 as follows:

Having thus gained a correct view of the real nature of his self, freed from the false notion of an identical substance of mind and matter, he attempts to investigate the cause of this “Ego-personality”. He realises that everything worldly, himself not excluded, is conditioned by causes past or present, and that this existence is due to past ignorance (avijjà), craving (taõhà), attachment (upàdàna), Kamma, and physical food (àhàra) of the present life.

On account of these five causes this personality has arisen and as the past activities have conditioned the present, so the present will condition the future. Meditating thus, he transcends all doubts with regard to the past, present, and future (Kankhàvitaraõavisuddhi). Thereupon he contemplates that all conditioned things are transient (Anicca), subject to suffering (Dukkha), and devoid of an immortal soul (Anattà). Wherever he turns his eyes, he sees nought but these three characteristics standing out in bold relief.

He realises that life is a mere flowing, a continuous undivided movement. Neither in a celestial plane nor on earth does he find any genuine happiness, for every form of pleasure is only a prelude to pain. What is transient is therefore subject to suffering and where change and sorrow prevail there cannot be a permanent ego.

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Postby Chi » Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:02 pm

Ignorance of the Three Characteristics and the Four Noble Truths. Any trace of doubt regarding these.

An Arahant does not create new karma as any trace of a person creating karma is eradicated. However, he/she still must live with the ripening of old karma.
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Re: What is the last thing to let go?

Postby SarathW » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:44 am

It appears Equanimity is the last thing to go!
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Whatever the case, even though the equanimity of these higher states of
concentration is superior to ordinary equanimity at the senses, it can act as an
object of clinging and so stand in the way of awakening.................
He does not relish that equanimity, does not
welcome it, does not remain fastened to it. As he doesn’t relish that
equanimity, doesn’t welcome it, doesn’t remain fastened to it, his
consciousness isn’t dependent on it, doesn’t cling to/isn’t sustained by it.
Without clinging/sustenance, finanda, a monk is totally unbound.
Page 39:
http://www.dhammatalks.org/Archive/Writ ... 120810.pdf
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I am not sure where Equanimity is fitting with 10 fetters.
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Re: What is the last thing to let go?

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Re: What is the last thing to let go?

Postby SarathW » Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:24 am

Thanks.
cessation of perception & feeling is not Nirvana.
cessation of perception & feeling can be attain by Anagami's as well. (I think)
Mental fabrications consist subtle and gross perceptions and feelings.
So the question I have is what is the most subtle mental fabrication.
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Re: What is the last thing to let go?

Postby SarathW » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:52 am

This is a very old post.
What is let go?
What is the Pali word for let go?
Is there a Sutta reference about letting go?
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Re: What is the last thing to let go?

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:05 am

Greetings Sarath,

Good question.

The opposite of letting go, is picking up, accumulating, clinging and appropriating, which is upadana.

Nirodha means cessation.

Therefore, in that case, how do you feel about upadananirodha?

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Re: What is the last thing to let go?

Postby retrofuturist » Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:44 am

Greetings,

Alternatively, aparāmasaṃ is "not grasping".

Metta,
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