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Chinese dog refuses to leave dead owner's graveside

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Chinese dog refuses to leave dead owner's graveside

Postby plwk » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:58 am

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A dog in China who was the only companion to a single resident has refused to leave him even after his death.
Lao Pan, 68, died earlier this month in the village of Panjiatun.
His dog was found later at his grave, refusing to leave even after seven days without food.
The BBC's Xiaoyun Yao reports.
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it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.
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If this single thing is recollected and made much,
it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.

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Re: Chinese dog refuses to leave dead owner's graveside

Postby tiltbillings » Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:02 am

Dogs are good.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

dheamhan a fhios agam

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson
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Re: Chinese dog refuses to leave dead owner's graveside

Postby Cittasanto » Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:55 pm

:)
This offering maybe right, or wrong, but it is one, the other, both, or neither!
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"Others will misconstrue reality due to their personal perspectives, doggedly holding onto and not easily discarding them; We shall not misconstrue reality due to our own personal perspectives, nor doggedly holding onto them, but will discard them easily. This effacement shall be done."
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Re: Chinese dog refuses to leave dead owner's graveside

Postby manas » Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:01 pm

Whatever his other qualities (or lack thereof) might be, this dog has in abundance, the quality of loyalty.
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Re: Chinese dog refuses to leave dead owner's graveside

Postby Aloka » Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:18 pm

Some animals can be very loyal to their human friends and to each other and have very endearing qualities in general.
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Re: Chinese dog refuses to leave dead owner's graveside

Postby Anagarika » Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:15 pm

Dogs really are good.

I saw this this morning on our sibling site, DharmaWheel. I can say without reservation I cried a bit like a little girl. :cry: I'm still trying to understand why I can see a hospice death video or training and not have the same visceral reaction as when I see something like this:

http://youtu.be/2XJO7zMQ3mk

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Re: Chinese dog refuses to leave dead owner's graveside

Postby yawares » Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:38 pm

Dear "plwk"/Buddhasoup,

I love your dog stories, very touching! In reverse...I'm the one who's loyal to my dog!
My beloved Fluffy looked just like this cute dog!
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Fluffy( Pomeranian Poodle) was my daughter's dog, we bought him when he was a little puppy. We loved this cute playful tiny dog so very much, he traveled with us everywhere, even when we were rowing a boat in the Huntsville Lake where he jumped into the lake, luckily he could swim quite well.

Those days I/Fluffy drove my daughter to school/back home, he loved to be in the car watching out the window. My daughter walked with Fluffy whenever she had time, she always bought him a beautiful bling-bling collar for his birthdays. Fluffy loved to eat honey-roasted-duck, he would jump up/down whenever I cooked roasted-duck.The love we had for Fluffy was so deep...I cried when Fluffy died peacefully with tears in his eyes at 14 yrs old. The way he looked at me during his last moment still haunted me.

I put Fluffy in his small grave with a redstone head between the redpink-Oleander-trees in our backyard, so he could have flowers all spring/summer/fall.
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***In this case, I'm the loyal one..I visit his grave almost everyday and miss him so much as I take care of my backyard/trim my plants/take care of my garden.

:heart: We so love Fluffy/wish him reborn in a happy world :heart:
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Re: Chinese dog refuses to leave dead owner's graveside

Postby Folia » Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:59 pm

Aloka wrote:Some animals can be very loyal to their human friends and to each other and have very endearing qualities in general.

Aloka

How can we distinguish between loyalty & self-cherishing?

Thank you

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Re: Chinese dog refuses to leave dead owner's graveside

Postby James the Giant » Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:57 pm

Folia wrote:How can we distinguish between loyalty & self-cherishing?

Loyalty generally manifests some altruistic actions. Self cherishing does not.
The two seem completely different to me... can you explain how they could be in any way similar?
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Re: Chinese dog refuses to leave dead owner's graveside

Postby Aloka » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:31 pm

Folia wrote:
Aloka wrote:Some animals can be very loyal to their human friends and to each other and have very endearing qualities in general.

Aloka

How can we distinguish between loyalty & self-cherishing?

Thank you

Folia :candle:


Hi Folia,

I'm not quite sure why you're asking this - but firstly, what do those two words mean to you ?

with kind wishes,

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Re: Chinese dog refuses to leave dead owner's graveside

Postby Folia » Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:54 pm

Aloka wrote:I'm not quite sure why you're asking this - but firstly, what do those two words mean to you ?

Aloka

I am thinking there may be self-interest in loyalty.

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Re: Chinese dog refuses to leave dead owner's graveside

Postby tiltbillings » Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:59 pm

Folia wrote:
Aloka wrote:I'm not quite sure why you're asking this - but firstly, what do those two words mean to you ?

Aloka

I am thinking there may be self-interest in loyalty.

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Self interest is not necessarily a bad thing. The Buddha more than once advocated it.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

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Re: Chinese dog refuses to leave dead owner's graveside

Postby Folia » Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:04 am

tiltbillings wrote:Self interest is not necessarily a bad thing. The Buddha more than once advocated it.

Thank you Tiltbillings

Are you able to post some examples to read?

Is there good self-interest & naughty self-interest?

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Re: Chinese dog refuses to leave dead owner's graveside

Postby Aloka » Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:11 am

Folia wrote:
Aloka wrote:I'm not quite sure why you're asking this - but firstly, what do those two words mean to you ?

Aloka

I am thinking there may be self-interest in loyalty.

:candle:


Are you talking about dogs - or human beings ?
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Re: Chinese dog refuses to leave dead owner's graveside

Postby Folia » Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:32 am

Aloka wrote:Are you talking about dogs - or human beings ?

I think what I am talking about can apply to both, unless dogs do not have a self. Does Buddhism teach dogs have a self? Does a guard dog have a self? If not, what makes a guard dog loyal to its owner, protect its owner property and make the dog bite others but not its owner? Does a good dog bite its owner?

Thank you

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Re: Chinese dog refuses to leave dead owner's graveside

Postby danieLion » Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:23 am

We used to have three yellow labs. The last one was put down almost two years to the day. She was almost sixteen. I miss them so much. Sometimes it still makes me cry. Like right now.

I'm glad they died before me so they didn't have to have go through the sorrow of missing me.
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Re: Chinese dog refuses to leave dead owner's graveside

Postby yawares » Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:06 pm

danieLion wrote:We used to have three yellow labs. The last one was put down almost two years to the day. She was almost sixteen. I miss them so much. Sometimes it still makes me cry. Like right now.

I'm glad they died before me so they didn't have to have go through the sorrow of missing me.


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Dear "danieLion",

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Thank you so much for telling your dogs-story...now I'm happy to know there is someone who loves dogs that much. My husband always said that I loved Fluffy more than I love him and my daughter combined..Oh how ridiculous!!!

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So I retaliated him by picking red roses(Don Juan) from my garden...and I put red rose petals on Fluffy's bed while he was sitting there looking at us innocently...and I even played the song "Bed Of Roses" just to aggravate my husband.

Bed Of Roses: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKOjcqoZRRs

My husband/daughter laughed so much...Oh we had a good time!!! :heart: :smile: :jumping:

Fluffy died knowing that I truly loved him :heart:
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Re: Chinese dog refuses to leave dead owner's graveside

Postby danieLion » Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:26 am

Thanks yawares,
Love those pics.
My wife often teased me the same way about my favorite dog, Eris (the most recently passed), and she might've been right. I still don't want another one. It's just so heartbreaking when their time comes, especially when they're so sweet and loyal and clearly love us tons.
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Re: Chinese dog refuses to leave dead owner's graveside

Postby yawares » Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:23 pm

Dear Plwk/Danielion/Members,

May be FLUFFY reincarnation!!! :heart:
A feisty Affenpinscher named Banana Joe, whose owners had announced earlier that he would be retiring, claimed the top honor of Best in Show at the annual Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show, the Super Bowl of the dog world. The 6-year-old toy dog, who looked like a tiny black cotton ball with red lips, bested six other dogs in Westminster’s final round—including Oakley, a German Wirehaired Pointer who is the top-ranked pooch in the country and had been widely expected to win.

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Asian International Dog Show Japan :heart:
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Yellow labrador :heart:
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