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Jhana during Inquisition

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lojong1
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Jhana during Inquisition

Postby lojong1 » Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:38 am

I wonder if Teresa d'Avila (and maybe Juan de la Cruz and Meister Eckhart) truly remained Christian after Jhana experiences.

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James the Giant
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Re: Jhana during Inquisition

Postby James the Giant » Sat Feb 16, 2013 2:00 am

If they did access the first few Jhanas, nothing in that experience would disagree with a Christian world-view.
Then,
saturated with joy,
you will put an end to suffering and stress.

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Re: Jhana during Inquisition

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Re: Jhana during Inquisition

Postby Coyote » Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:20 pm

lojong1,

You might want to read a bit about Hesychasm and the uncreated light - these kind of experiences have been part and parcel of Christian mysticism since before the first millennia. I think it is interesting to know about these things for a comparative perspective.

It is interesting to note though, that especially in later times, many of these practices took on eastern language i.e uncreated, guarding the mind, true self ect.
http://orthodoxwiki.org/Hesychasm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theoria

But just because they experience concentration, lights, rapture ect. doesn't necessarily make it genuine jhana, though it all seems to be based on the same principles - seclusion, refraining from immorality, deep focus on one object or sound.
"If beings knew, as I know, the results of giving & sharing, they would not eat without having given, nor would the stain of miserliness overcome their minds. Even if it were their last bite, their last mouthful, they would not eat without having shared."
Iti 26

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Re: Jhana during Inquisition

Postby lojong1 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:53 am


lojong1
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Re: Jhana during Inquisition

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Re: Jhana during Inquisition

Postby Coyote » Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:34 pm

"If beings knew, as I know, the results of giving & sharing, they would not eat without having given, nor would the stain of miserliness overcome their minds. Even if it were their last bite, their last mouthful, they would not eat without having shared."
Iti 26


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