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Not wanting to be off-topic elsewhere

Postby tiltbillings » Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:32 am

This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson
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Re: Not wanting to be off-topic elsewhere

Postby James the Giant » Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:40 pm

Go Picard! Hard Arse! He's awesome.
I love how religion in the 24th century has become a hobby, and not a driving force for fanaticism and violence.
Even amongst the Bajorans, perhaps the most spiritual of the alien races, religion seemed to take a second place behind the fight for independence.
Then,
saturated with joy,
you will put an end to suffering and stress.
SN 9.11
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Re: Not wanting to be off-topic elsewhere

Postby Ben » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:38 pm

I've always loved the expression "taking Capt Picard to warp nine".
What we need is Picard as the next Pope.
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Re: Not wanting to be off-topic elsewhere

Postby David N. Snyder » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:03 pm

Nature produced a few smart and handsome men. The rest have hair.
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Re: Not wanting to be off-topic elsewhere

Postby Modus.Ponens » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:42 pm

David N. Snyder wrote:Nature produced a few smart and handsome men. The rest have hair.


I'm getting pretier day by day!
And the Blessed One addressed the bhikkhus, saying: "Behold now, bhikkhus, I exhort you: All compounded things are subject to vanish. Strive with earnestness!"
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Re: Not wanting to be off-topic elsewhere

Postby Ben » Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:41 pm

David N. Snyder wrote:Nature produced a few smart and handsome men. The rest have hair.


You are funny, David!
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Re: Not wanting to be off-topic elsewhere

Postby Jay1 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:58 pm

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Re: Not wanting to be off-topic elsewhere

Postby Modus.Ponens » Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:52 pm

The buddhist inquisition is well known. :roll:
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Re: Not wanting to be off-topic elsewhere

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:54 pm

Jay1 wrote:Ya know, Buddhism with it's devas, heavens, hells, ghosts and rebirths would fall into the same category Christianity does. I'm just sayin'.

:namaste:

The difference is that disbelief in those things is punishable by a stern look from a senior monk instead of eternal damnation.
Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta

Stuff I write about things.
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Re: Not wanting to be off-topic elsewhere

Postby Jay1 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:17 pm

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Re: Not wanting to be off-topic elsewhere

Postby Jay1 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:22 pm

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Re: Not wanting to be off-topic elsewhere

Postby Jay1 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:46 pm

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Re: Not wanting to be off-topic elsewhere

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:02 pm

Jay1 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4HsqiyjcXw

EDIT:

I'm not trying to spread hate, just to point out errors :)


Not sure what your point is, this site is dedicated to the discussion of the Thervada. Your last few posts are concerned with Zen and its appropriation by the Japanese government during WWII. Please help me to understand why you keep posting this stuff.
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Re: Not wanting to be off-topic elsewhere

Postby Jay1 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:15 pm

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Re: Not wanting to be off-topic elsewhere

Postby David N. Snyder » Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:17 pm

Jay1 wrote:
LonesomeYogurt wrote:The difference is that disbelief in those things is punishable by a stern look from a senior monk instead of eternal damnation.

Even if that was true (it's not), my main point stands. Buddhism believes in a lot of superstitious things like . . .


How is what LY wrote not true?

Those superstitious things like resurrection of the body (flesh), transubstantiation, virgin birth, heaven, hell are essential in Christianity, but those things are not essential in Buddhism. The focus is on suffering and the way out of suffering, The Four Noble Truths and the Eightfold Path. The other things (devas, hell realms, etc) will get you a stern look from a monk if you say you don't believe in the them at the most. Some monks won't even give you a stern look.
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Re: Not wanting to be off-topic elsewhere

Postby David N. Snyder » Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:21 pm

Jay1 wrote:The response was that no I am wrong because Buddhism could not ignite violence and no-one could murder in the name of Buddhism but they could in the name of the Christian god. Hence my posts on Japane's Buddhism and its relationship to ww2.


There are good Christians and there are bad Christians.
There are good Buddhists and there are bad Buddhists.

Who would Jesus bomb?
Who would Buddha bomb?

The actions of a few bad ones don't extend to the founder.
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Re: Not wanting to be off-topic elsewhere

Postby Jay1 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:35 pm

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Re: Not wanting to be off-topic elsewhere

Postby SDC » Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:38 pm

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Re: Not wanting to be off-topic elsewhere

Postby Jay1 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:39 pm

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Re: Not wanting to be off-topic elsewhere

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:42 pm

Okay, point taken: some Buddhists are bad. Anything else?
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