anapanasati first four tetrads

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anapanasati first four tetrads

Postby alan... » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:35 am

anyone care to give their own personal commentary on them, however brief or detailed?

the first tetrad is more or less self explanatory, however if anyone believes it is anything bud breath mindfulness to lead to access concentration or something similar by all means share.

the second and third both seem to be about jhana, unless i'm missing something? are they to mean that one should go through all eight jhanas and then contemplate the things in the fourth tetrad? if so, why not call them jhana like usual? why is the word "jhana" not used even once?

finally the fourth tetrad: how are we to practice it? what exactly are we contemplating, and how?

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Postby daverupa » Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:26 am

Satipatthana is part of constant practice, as satisampajanna.

Anapanasati is a particular way of doing satipatthana whereby one calms kaya- & citta-sankhara, as well as citta altogether, in order to facilitate a tranquil letting go, leading to seclusion from kamaguna and akusaladhamma & thereby enabling jhana.

Just as with satipatthana, the guide is the map, but the terrain for each of us requires skillful navigation; right view is the forerunner here because it is only with the cessation of doubt about wholesome & unwholesome that one becomes unerring in this. It needn't be the cessation of doubt such that a stream-entrant experiences, but that hindrance needs dealing with at least (as do the other four).

The piti of the second tetrad is the piti factor of awakening, arising due to energy (sammaviriya, as above) which springs from dhammavicaya, itself a result of sati. It can be present when doing the first tetrad, and is itself the condition for tranquility, which is the condition for samadhi (again, as above).

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