This time: TEN days, zero tobacco

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Re: This time: TEN days, zero tobacco

Postby makarasilapin » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:42 pm

hey manas, just seeing this thread for the first time. i smoked for 12 years before giving it up, so i understand the struggle!

best of luck to you! :jedi:

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Re: This time: TEN days, zero tobacco

Postby manas » Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:36 am

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: This time: TEN days, zero tobacco

Postby makarasilapin » Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:51 pm

lol awesome. i love how you're doing this and that the forum is such a strong support. only 7 days to go!!

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Re: This time: TEN days, zero tobacco

Postby manas » Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:52 pm

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: This time: TEN days, zero tobacco

Postby cooran » Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:59 pm

Proud of you manas! keep at it! :group:

with metta
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---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---

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Re: This time: TEN days, zero tobacco

Postby makarasilapin » Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:13 am

very insightful, manas - and i'm finding myself quite inspired by your determination. may you always find the strength to achieve your goals!

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Re: This time: TEN days, zero tobacco

Postby manas » Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:01 am

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: This time: TEN days, zero tobacco

Postby Dmytro » Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:15 pm

Freedom is cool :anjali:

"Admirable friendship, admirable companionship, admirable camaraderie is actually the whole of the holy life. When a monk has admirable people as friends, companions, & comrades, he can be expected to develop & pursue the noble eightfold path."

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html


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Re: This time: TEN days, zero tobacco

Postby manas » Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:41 am

:woohoo:

I think I am almost there (I mean, over this addiction), dear friends and colleagues. Thanks to three things: a good initial idea (this topic), a bit of patience and effort from myself to see it through, and all of your supportiveness along the way (without which I would not have made it - I believe this to be true). :anjali:

Now, I don't think the level of addiction I had was very severe. As I said in the beginning, if just a few a day can be this hard to kick, I really pity those who smoke a packet or more a day. That must be :twisted: hell :twisted: to give up, in comparison to the pain I've had to endure, which has been mixed; mostly moderate, only rarely did it get intense. But I still would advise the same to anyone who was smoking a packet a day, and considering quitting: logically, the longer you leave it, the harder it gets to quit. Now is always going to be the easiest time to do it. Because every time we give in to an urge, we strengthen it. If we keep strengthening it over and over again, it will take even more energy to overcome, when we do finally decide to abandon it. So spare yourself the pain - quit now.

Hehe they should use that in the anti-smoking ads: "spare yourself the pain - quit now."
Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: This time: TEN days, zero tobacco

Postby cooran » Sun Mar 17, 2013 4:09 am

Congrats! But keep vigilant - this could just be sneaky Mara making you think you can lessen the effort, :tongue:

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---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---

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Re: This time: TEN days, zero tobacco

Postby Justsit » Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:01 pm

:goodpost:

Yes, it's rarely that simple, don't get suckered into thinking this is over, even if you think your addiction was minor! The urge to pick up again will strike when you least expect it. Be on guard. :thumbsup:

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Re: This time: TEN days, zero tobacco

Postby manas » Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:23 am

Thanks for the warnings, Cooran, and justsit.

You are right about how it can seem like it's over, but then, unexpectedly, the old mindset is suddenly right there, present in the mind. Along with the old memories of how it felt, or other sensual pleasures associated with smoking. It is devious and nasty.

I am understanding that long term, I have to find and engage in other, but healthy things that also bring a rush or sense of excitement. It's why I should escape out to the forested mountains more often, as I once did. This brings a pleasant feeling - of fresh, more highly oxygenated air - and a mild sense of exhilaration at times. The difference is, this pleasure will lengthen my life, rather than shorten it!

:anjali:
Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: This time: TEN days, zero tobacco

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Re: This time: TEN days, zero tobacco

Postby manas » Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:52 am

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: This time: TEN days, zero tobacco

Postby manas » Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:56 am

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: This time: TEN days, zero tobacco

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:00 am

Soon, aspiration or not, you won't want to harm yourself with cigarettes... and that wisdom will outweigh and overcome biological urges. Aim to cross that threshhold and sail off into the sunset...

Keep at it, manas!

Metta,
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Re: This time: TEN days, zero tobacco

Postby manas » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:08 am

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: This time: TEN days, zero tobacco

Postby manas » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:46 am

It must be DAY 8 by now. (I lost count for a while.) So that's a record for the last six months, afaik.

Much as this journey has been wonderful to share, and that I know I would not have made it without all of the kind support and encouragement from everyone who has replied, I am going to finally end it after this current 10 day mark has been achieved. I'm not comfortable being 'in the spotlight' at the best of times, not for too long anyway. But I hope that, if in the future I find that I need to do this again, that people won't groan and go, "oh not again!" In any case, people are always free to click on a topic, or not if they don't wish to.

But, what a journey. And how fortunate it is to have admirable friendship.

:anjali:
Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."


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