eSangha all over again...

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eSangha all over again...

Postby Beautiful Breath » Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:30 am

Nice to see that the old eSangha forum attitudes are alive and well in The Dharma Wheel Forum. After challenging the disgusting behavior of some of the members and a manifest intolerant attitude to others beliefs, two things happened. First of all they deleted my post, then after complaining to a Moderator (some Greek sounding bloke) they have banned me. Deja Vu... :)

If they're incapable of participating in a mature debate then why have a forum?

What the moderators are, are a disgrace to the faith that they purport to represent. I only go in to have a look around.

I am apparently allowed back into the forum on Tuesday when I will swiftly be cancelling my membership.

Now I know why I shy away from all that Tibetan stuff....

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Re: eSangha all over again...

Postby Ben » Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:34 am

Greetings BB,

Send a pm with your experiences and concerns to David N. Snyder, owner of both Dhamma Wheel and Dharma Wheel.
You can be sure that he will investigate your complaint seriously and objectively.
kind regards,

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Re: eSangha all over again...

Postby Kim OHara » Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:36 am

Beautiful Breath wrote:Nice to see that the old eSangha forum attitudes are alive and well in The Dharma Wheel Forum. After challenging the disgusting behavior of some of the members and a manifest intolerant attitude to others beliefs, two things happened. First of all they deleted my post, then after complaining to a Moderator (some Greek sounding bloke) they have banned me. Deja Vu... :)

If they're incapable of participating in a mature debate then why have a forum?

What the moderators are, are a disgrace to the faith that they purport to represent. I only go in to have a look around.

I am apparently allowed back into the forum on Tuesday when I will swiftly be cancelling my membership.

Now I know why I shy away from all that Tibetan stuff....

Ummmmm .... I don't want to be unfair and I don't want to sound unsympathetic but if the 'challenge' and deleted post matched the tone of the above then there may just possibly be a pot-kettle aspect to the situation.

:thinking:
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Re: eSangha all over again...

Postby Dan74 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:36 am

I think David Snyder owns both fora. Rather than simply blowing off some steam, you may want to write to him and explain exactly what happened.

If you were treated unfairly, it is a good idea to appeal. Or if not, to get a better explanation why this action was taken.
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Re: eSangha all over again...

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:21 pm

Greetings Beautiful Breath,

Beautiful Breath wrote:Nice to see that the old eSangha forum attitudes are alive and well in The Dharma Wheel Forum. After challenging the disgusting behavior of some of the members and a manifest intolerant attitude to others beliefs, two things happened. First of all they deleted my post, then after complaining to a Moderator (some Greek sounding bloke) they have banned me. Deja Vu... :)

If they're incapable of participating in a mature debate then why have a forum?

What the moderators are, are a disgrace to the faith that they purport to represent. I only go in to have a look around.

I am apparently allowed back into the forum on Tuesday when I will swiftly be cancelling my membership.

Now I know why I shy away from all that Tibetan stuff....

What I know is that both forums adhere to their respective terms of service. As for the one here... you might wish to refamiliarise yourself with it, as technically you're in breach of it.

2. Do not be disruptive

Dhamma Wheel is an environment for the discussion of the Theravada. All are welcome but are required to abide by the TOS. Special forums have been created for special areas of interest so please respect these boundaries. Dhamma Wheel administrators and moderators reserve the right to edit inappropriate content, and to remove or transfer any posts or threads that are not relevant to the sub-forum in which they are posted. Any subject matter that may be off-topic or is intended only to cause disruption or harm to others may be removed without notice. This includes the badmouthing of other Buddhist discussion forums, trolling, meta-discussion (i.e. discussion about discussion), unsubstantiated allegations against members, solicitation of funds and proselytizing.

Full terms of service - http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2

Metta,
Retro. :)
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Neither traceable in the Discourses nor verifiable by the Discipline, one must conclude thus: 'Certainly, this is not the Blessed One's utterance; this has been misunderstood by that bhikkhu — or by that community, or by those elders, or by that elder.' In that way, bhikkhus, you should reject it. (DN 16)

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Re: eSangha all over again...

Postby convivium » Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:44 pm

it's the internet.
Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php

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Re: eSangha all over again...

Postby manas » Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:16 am

Just reread the TOS. From what I can see, mostly members follow them. But yes doesn't hurt to review them carefully and ensure that we understand all the possible implications.

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Re: eSangha all over again...

Postby iforgotmyname » Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:20 am

:popcorn:

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Re: eSangha all over again...

Postby Digity » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:36 am

:jawdrop:


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