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Re: global warming

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Re: global warming

Postby Buckwheat » Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:04 am

Sotthī hontu nirantaraṃ - May you forever be well.

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Re: global warming

Postby Kim OHara » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:53 am

You're right in that any single weather event can't be ascribed to global warming.
But a run of weird weather is a different matter. You might like - or like to worry about :tongue: - this: and this - while I worry about .

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Re: global warming

Postby Kim OHara » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:55 am

Just thought I would let you guys know that I will be away from home for a couple of weeks - holidays :smile: - and won't be online much.
Have fun while I'm away but play nice!

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Re: global warming

Postby Alex123 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:06 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: global warming

Postby Alex123 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:18 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: global warming

Postby Alex123 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:06 pm

click on the image to show all of it.
Here is graph of temperature for the past 12,000 years. (right is present, left is past).
Please note, the average temperature is going down and that is with all alleged human induced warming... Nothing strange except that with all the alleged human made warming due to CO2 emissions, there is nothing abnormal in temperature which is falling btw.
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Here is graph of temperature for the past 350,000 years to put the above into more proper context.
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Please note:
1912 to 1961: the temperature increase is 0.52C, while the CO2 increase was 18ppm.
1962 to 2011: the temperature increase is 0.41C, while the CO2 increase was 74ppm.
If CO2 amplifies global warming, then shouldn't it mean that more co2 = warmer, less co2=colder?
This graph shows that the role of CO2 is over-exaggerated



I am perfectly willing to accept AGW if I see sufficient reasons. So far, and as charts above show, I have no reason believing in humans significantly, if any, contributing to warming.
"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: global warming

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Re: global warming

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Re: global warming

Postby Alex123 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:43 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: global warming

Postby Buckwheat » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:35 pm

Sotthī hontu nirantaraṃ - May you forever be well.

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Re: global warming

Postby Alex123 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:21 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: global warming

Postby Ron-The-Elder » Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:01 pm

What Makes an Elder? :
A head of gray hairs doesn't mean one's an elder. Advanced in years, one's called an old fool.
But one in whom there is truth, restraint, rectitude, gentleness,self-control, he's called an elder, his impurities disgorged, enlightened.
-Dhammpada, 19, translated by Thanissaro Bhikkhu.

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Re: global warming

Postby Alex123 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:27 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: global warming

Postby Ron-The-Elder » Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:25 pm

What Makes an Elder? :
A head of gray hairs doesn't mean one's an elder. Advanced in years, one's called an old fool.
But one in whom there is truth, restraint, rectitude, gentleness,self-control, he's called an elder, his impurities disgorged, enlightened.
-Dhammpada, 19, translated by Thanissaro Bhikkhu.

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Re: global warming

Postby Ron-The-Elder » Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:27 pm

What Makes an Elder? :
A head of gray hairs doesn't mean one's an elder. Advanced in years, one's called an old fool.
But one in whom there is truth, restraint, rectitude, gentleness,self-control, he's called an elder, his impurities disgorged, enlightened.
-Dhammpada, 19, translated by Thanissaro Bhikkhu.

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Re: global warming

Postby Dan74 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:24 am

Kim, are you still motivated to continue?

Buckwheat?

You can take a horse to water, but when it's well and truly dead, you should stop beating it because it had refused to drink.

(mixing metaphors is my vice of choice currently ;)
_/|\_

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Re: global warming

Postby danieLion » Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:26 am

guess i'm breaking my promise to Tilt, but i'm encouraged to see Alex, Ron and one of the best periodicals ever published (and i suppose by implication Dmytro), the Economist, carrying on my twisted evil :twisted: crtical work against climate change "science"

extreme, crazy, bad weather's all our fault and if we don't do something about it we'll be sorry...

how long do we have to hear this until time finally reveals how silly it is...

if the geolocial record is accurate, we haven't seen extreme, bad or crazy weather for a long time, and if we do there'll be no doubt that it wasn't caused by us...

believing that our tiny little human perspective can reveal anything about climate change patterns, and believing we have anything but a miniscule effect on the climate, is egocentriciy sublimated and turned into anthrocentricity...get over yourselves

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Re: global warming

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Re: global warming

Postby manas » Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:38 am

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."


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