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Ud 5.4: Kumāra Sutta — Boys

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Ud 5.4: Kumāra Sutta — Boys

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Re: Ud 5.4: Kumāra Sutta — Boys

Postby convivium » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:03 am

if someone were to slaughter a million people, and you could kill that person would you kill that person (even though killing is an evil deed)?
yes, we would take pain upon ourselves and save the person from that bad karma = mahayana response.
what is the sutta/vinaya response to these sort of ethical dilemas (or are they raised)?
Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php

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Re: Ud 5.4: Kumāra Sutta — Boys

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Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: Ud 5.4: Kumāra Sutta — Boys

Postby mikenz66 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:22 am

This dilemma has been discussed over here:

The train morality problem
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=8528&start=0

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Re: Ud 5.4: Kumāra Sutta — Boys

Postby convivium » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:47 am

it's in one's own self-interest, karmically, to do nothing. if you help other's, you risk karmic debt.
helping others is generally a catch 22. and yet and yet...
Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php

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Re: Ud 5.4: Kumāra Sutta — Boys

Postby mirco » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:56 am

I wonder if they were catching fish for food or for fun.
In my opion it was for fun, otherwise why should He have adressed them.

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