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labeling

Postby befriend » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:53 am

if an egoic thought comes up like if i do this someone will think im awesome. should we maybe bow, to cultivate humility the conventional route, or do we just label it as thinking, "oh heres another thought, now ill just come back to the moment". or if we have a wrong view like hunting animals is fine, do we make a mental note thinking thinking to recognize the ultmaite reality of the thought. or do we refer it to it as being unwholesome. how do we know when to apply conventional reality and when to apply ultamite reality in terms of thinking? thank you. be well, befriend
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Re: labeling

Postby Buckwheat » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:03 pm

befriend wrote:...to recognize the ultmaite reality of the thought...

What is the ultimate reality of the thought?
Disciples, this I declare to you: All conditioned things are subject to disintegration – strive on untiringly for your liberation.

Sotthī hontu nirantaraṃ - May you forever be well.
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Re: labeling

Postby Spiny Norman » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:13 pm

befriend wrote:if an egoic thought comes up like if i do this someone will think im awesome. should we maybe bow, to cultivate humility the conventional route, or do we just label it as thinking, "oh heres another thought, now ill just come back to the moment".


There are different approaches and it depends on the context, but I'd be inclined to keep it simple - so maybe just label it "thinking". Then maybe you become aware of a pattern behind the thoughts, like "wanting attention".
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Re: labeling

Postby befriend » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:13 pm

the nature of the thought is characterized by impermanence, suffering and non self. but i am afraid that would be nihilism? maybe.
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Re: labeling

Postby Goofaholix » Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:46 pm

Just be aware thinking is happening and carry on. That doesn't mean you can't be aware of the content of the thought and the motivations behind it but if you start analysing or trying to solve it you are only going to cause it to snowball, whereas if you stay with the process of thinking you gain the objectivity and over time start letting go of the unwise motivations that fuel your thoughts.
"Whenever we feel that we are definitely right, so much so that we refuse to open up to anything or anybody else, right there we are wrong. It becomes wrong view. When suffering arises, where does it arise from? The cause is wrong view, the fruit of that being suffering. If it was right view it wouldn't cause suffering." - Ajahn Chah
"Remember you dont meditate to get anything, but to get rid of things. We do it, not with desire, but with letting go. If you want anything, you wont find it." - Ajahn Chah
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