A Critique of the Hardcore Dharma Movement.

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Re: A Critique of the Hardcore Dharma Movement.

Postby manas » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:06 pm

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Postby SamKR » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:53 am

Hi nibs,

It seems that the main emphasis of this movement is "enlightenment" , and not purification (from defilements), and not liberation (from suffering).
Perhaps this is where the main difference lies between this movement and "orthodox theravada".
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

Actually I do not criticize the movement, and actually I enjoy reading your posts as well as the other followers of this movement.

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He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
(Jhana Sutta - Thanissaro Bhikkhu translation)

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"The gift of truth exceeds all other gifts" — Dhammapada, v. 354 Craving XXIV

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"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
(Jhana Sutta - Thanissaro Bhikkhu translation)

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"The gift of truth exceeds all other gifts" — Dhammapada, v. 354 Craving XXIV


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