Bad thoughts = Bad Karma?

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Re: Bad thoughts = Bad Karma?

Postby ground » Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:00 am

Digity wrote:Sometimes something is on my mind that's really bothering me. It's usually has something to do with the way someone acted, which I disapproved of. Often times when I tell other people what happened thye agree that the person was wrong and it was stupid, etc. In these cases I often start having a lot of bad thoughts about the person thinking that they're stupid idiots, etc, etc, etc. I don't want to have these thoughts...I want to be more peaceful, but I can't control it or at least I currently can't control it. I kind of let my mind spew a lot of venom, but I know in the back of my mind it's not right or inline with the Dhamma. Am I creating a lot of negative karma here? I wasn't sure, because it's not like I'm fully intended to be mean towards these people...these thoughts and urges just arise. My intention is to not be this way, but I don't feel like I can control what's arising in the moment. Any advice on how to deal with this more wisely?

Try to focus on things that foster your self-confidence. If you are content and satisfied with yourself your negative thinking about others will diminish because the source is a sense of inferiority. :sage:
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Re: Bad thoughts = Bad Karma?

Postby Digity » Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:36 am

You know what...I realized 90% of the crap I worry about or am angry about is kind of stupid. I live in a privileged part of the world, have a good life and I spend my time mulling over what so-and-so said. I think I need to stop focusing my attention on these stupid issues and put my focus in a better place. :alien:
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Re: Bad thoughts = Bad Karma?

Postby ground » Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:20 am

Digity wrote:... I live in a privileged part of the world, have a good life and I spend my time mulling over what so-and-so said. ...

Yeah, that's the reason for buddhism in a privileged part of the world too. :sage:
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Re: Bad thoughts = Bad Karma?

Postby Digity » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:43 pm

I'm going to make an effort to complain less. It'll be part of my practice. Most people who live in a first world country have it well and need to shut up about their problems. There's people who are far worse off out there.
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Re: Bad thoughts = Bad Karma?

Postby BlackBird » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:45 pm

Strengthening one's metta practice would be a strong catalyst for positive change in this case.
"And so, because this Teaching is so different from what Westerners are accustomed to, they will try to adapt the Teaching to their own framework. What they need to learn to do is not to adapt the Teaching to their own point of view but to adapt their own point of view to the Teaching. This is called saddhá, or faith, and it means giving oneself to the Teaching even if the Teaching is contrary to one’s own preconceived notions of the way things are."- Ven Bodhesako

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Re: Bad thoughts = Bad Karma?

Postby waimengwan » Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:59 am

Whenever unwholesome thoughts arise, we should dispel them by wise reflection on the evil consequences of such thoughts, use bare attention to contemplate their three characteristics, or forcefully suppress them if necessary.


Thank you Bhikkhu Pesala for sharing, what are the three characteristics ? And if we suppress these thoughts won't it come back to bit us again, usually things that are suppressed works that way. Or we have to suppress until we find the right remedy / antidote. Please share thanks.
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Re: Bad thoughts = Bad Karma?

Postby taintless » Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:54 am

My friend,

Bad intention, is bad karma.

Not bad thoughts.
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Re: Bad thoughts = Bad Karma?

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:21 am

waimengwan wrote:Thank you Bhikkhu Pesala for sharing, what are the three characteristics ? And if we suppress these thoughts won't it come back to bite us again, usually things that are suppressed work that way. Or we have to suppress until we find the right remedy / antidote. Please share thanks.

The three characteristics are impermanence (anicca), suffering (dukkha), and not-self (anattā).

See the Sabbāsava Sutta on the Āsavas that should be removed through rejection (= suppression). As long as the unwholesome roots are not destroyed by insight, unwholesome thoughts rooted in ill-will or lust may arise when conditions so conspire. Whenever they do arise they should be rejected, otherwise, we will follow them and the latent tendency to lust and ill-will will get strengthened. Could anyone observe the five precepts without suppressing the intention to do wrong? If one never had the slightest intention to break any of the five precepts, then one would already be a Stream-winner, for whom observing the five precepts is natural and stable morality.

It is the intention that characterises a thought as good or bad. Bad thoughts such as, "I want to seduce that man's wife," "I want to kill that man," "I don't believe there is any result of merely thinking bad thoughts," are the unwholesome thoughts of covetousness, ill-will, and wrong view.

Can anyone be content if they covet things that they don't own, or have to meet with people they cannot stand?
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Re: Bad thoughts = Bad Karma?

Postby Digity » Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:49 pm

taintless wrote:My friend,

Bad intention, is bad karma.

Not bad thoughts.

Yes, but if bad thoughts are a symptom of bad intentions then having bad thoughts could be an indication of underlying bad intentions.
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