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The Benefits & Drawbacks of Pali

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths. What can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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Re: The Problem With Pali

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"Silence gives answers"

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Re: The Problem With Pali

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Kamran,
I've listend to about half so far. I feel annoyed that you presumed I hadn't heard of them, and their content has little to do with the importance of Pali. If anything, they de-prioritize Pali.

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Re: The Problem With Pali

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Too many great Buddhist teachers have not mastered Pali--and many others have not even come close--for me to think it should be placed above using translations to guide our practice.

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Re: The Problem With Pali

Postby Kamran » Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:16 am

Its certainly better to read the texts in translation than not to read them at all.

But if you enjoy reading the suttas, why not try learning Pali?

In English speaking countries most people do not learn additional languages, so it may seem to be more difficult for them.

However, Pali is an Indo-European language, and the Pali Text Society has published everything in the Latin script, so there is no need to learn Pali script.
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Re: The Problem With Pali

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"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: The Problem With Pali

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Re: The Problem With Pali

Postby Sylvester » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:17 am

Hmm, without some Pali, would one know how to interpret the 5th Precept? I see some really wonky interpretations out there that try to take advantage of a supposed loophole that exists only in English translations ("intoxicants that cause heedlessness"). See how BB now translates the Precept in the AN.

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Re: The Problem With Pali

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I find this thread rather strange and unreal. But maybe it's only me, being baffled by seeing someone working so hard to defend and justify ignorance.
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