A disgusting religious tradition, that has resulted in death

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Re: A disgusting religious tradition, that has resulted in d

Postby Modus.Ponens » Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:31 pm

Dan74 wrote:I can empathise with your friend's story more than I can share here... 8-)

As for your second paragraph, unfortunately the converse is not true (ie if you are a great mathematician (comedian), there is a significant chance that you are Jewish, but if you are Jewish, there is only a very small chance that you are a great mathematician (comedian)!)

But my favourite Jewish comedian mathematician is Tom Lehrer, and if you don't know him, check him out (though he is not being fair to poor old Lobachevsky as it turns out)!



Good one! I don't know who Lobachevsky, but it's a pretty strong set of acusations!

He graduated early!

Is that a self-deprecating joke? It seems very counterintuitive if it's literaly true!
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Re: A disgusting religious tradition, that has resulted in d

Postby Dan74 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:30 pm

You're kidding! Lobachevsky was the father of hyperbolic geometry.
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Re: A disgusting religious tradition, that has resulted in d

Postby BlackBird » Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:33 pm

Getting a little off topic I fear, but as a race I think Jews have a disproportionately high number of geniuses. Someone once thought I was Jewish (a racist guy who took my reading exert of Mila 18 to be proof), I felt like thanking him for the compliment.

Back on topic, Cittasanto: I don't personally think it's a big enough deal to make it illegal to circumcise babies, and that circumcision should be consensual. I personally wouldn't have been pissed off if my parents had had me circumcised as a babe, but to each their own. It's not a black and white argument. but most definitely a grey number.
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Re: A disgusting religious tradition, that has resulted in d

Postby manas » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:28 am

robertk wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/27/health/aap-circumcision-recommendation
Revising its policy on circumcision for the first time in 13 years, the American Academy of Pediatrics now says that the preventative health benefits of infant circumcision clearly outweigh the risks.


Let's suppose a baby gets born with an unusually long foreskin, which could result in a few hygiene issues during childhood; in that instance, I think there might be a justification in having it done in a clean, sterile, respectful & proper medical way. Otherwise: let the kid decide for himself, when he is a teenager perhaps, and can give informed consent. Babies cannot give informed consent!

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Re: A disgusting religious tradition, that has resulted in d

Postby Reductor » Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:04 am

About the hygiene thing: why is it so hard to wash your kid's pecker? Seriously, I always washed my son's in the past, and now that he's older, I've taught him to wash it when taking a shower. Not hard.

I mean, a kid's ass is a foul little thing, but we don't cut off the cheek.
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Re: A disgusting religious tradition, that has resulted in d

Postby Cittasanto » Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:12 pm

BlackBird wrote:Getting a little off topic I fear, but as a race I think Jews have a disproportionately high number of geniuses. Someone once thought I was Jewish (a racist guy who took my reading exert of Mila 18 to be proof), I felt like thanking him for the compliment.

Back on topic, Cittasanto: I don't personally think it's a big enough deal to make it illegal to circumcise babies, and that circumcision should be consensual. I personally wouldn't have been pissed off if my parents had had me circumcised as a babe, but to each their own. It's not a black and white argument. but most definitely a grey number.

Hacking a part of the body off with no need is grey? sorry but if they can not give informed concent, and this sort of stuff happends due to a lack of sanitary conditions, not to mention the needless mortality rate of a forced elective procedure.
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Re: A disgusting religious tradition, that has resulted in d

Postby binocular » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:59 pm

BlackBird wrote:A disgusting religious tradition, that has resulted in death


It's not clear what this has to do with religion, other than hastily being called that way ...

It's how one can get a lot of doubts, confusion and hesitation about religion, including Buddhism (which is probably why some people call Buddhism a "philosophy," as opposed to a "religion").
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