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Teachings of Self Damaging Dhamma?

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Teachings of Self Damaging Dhamma?

Postby clw_uk » Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:58 pm

Greetings


In my eternal on going debate that im currently having :jumping: i was met with an article from a memeber of the Sangha who talks quite openly about a true Self (i wont say the name of what tradition)


The guy then basically stuck to this and, from what i can tell, it allowed him to cling more tightly at his Atman concept since he felt it was justified by, what he sees as, wise Buddhist monks


Do we think that Sangha memebers who teach in these terms actually do damage to Dhamma and to others wanting to understand Dhamma, since it seems to let people cling to some sense of Self


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Re: Teachings of Self Damaging Dhamma?

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Re: Teachings of Self Damaging Dhamma?

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:20 pm

I would be interested to see this article.


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Teachings of Self Damaging Dhamma?

Postby kc2dpt » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:00 pm

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Re: Teachings of Self Damaging Dhamma?

Postby Ben » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:02 pm

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Teachings of Self Damaging Dhamma?

Postby nomad » Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:46 am

I can see why people in today’s world would be so quick to cling onto a sense of self. Despite the knowledge given in scripture, it can still be frightening for some people to give up their egocentric views when many have been conditioned since birth to believe that they are a separate entity that is the center of the universe. I agree, however, that it is damaging as it goes against the basic tenets of Buddhism. Do you have a link to the article?

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Re: Teachings of Self Damaging Dhamma?

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Re: Teachings of Self Damaging Dhamma?

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